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From: Georg Bauhaus <rm.tsoh.plus-bug.bauhaus@maps.futureapps.de>
Subject: Re: Ada in teaching (was: Ariane 5 Failure from 1996)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:18:51 +0200
Date: 2009-07-14T22:18:52+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4a5ce82c$0$32682$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nospam-763215.11160114072009@news.aioe.org>

John B. Matthews wrote:

> I always though going from Pascal to Ada would have been easier.

Which subset of Ada?  Without exceptionally good explanations,
I can't imagine full Ada, with access discriminants, say, as
a possible teaching vehicle at all.

Java is probably thought to be closer to business;
at least I've heard teachers say so. It is,
in another sense, at least: sloppy base type systems
and hand made concurrency are a good basis for
continued support business.  While Java's int, long, etc. only
require a little hubris to handle them properly, there are the
ubiquituous features of the same spirit, equally successful:
int, long, etc. in C and their integer overflows and buffer
overflows.
These will provide for vulnerability protection opportunities
and help establish international software companies :-)
Java has learned from this base type system, so it
moved the imperfections to object spaghetti. No?

You should be teaching what everyone wants.
You should be teaching what everyone teaches.
You should be rushing towards a new paradigm
in teaching as soon as it is there.
Be part of the crowd. It's only tax payers' money.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-07-14 20:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-10 14:53 Ariane 5 Failure from 1996 John McCabe
2009-07-10 15:04 ` Martin
2009-07-10 15:09   ` John McCabe
2009-07-10 16:27     ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-07-10 18:17     ` John B. Matthews
2009-07-12 14:08       ` Marco
2009-07-12 14:34         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-07-13 10:03         ` John McCabe
2009-07-14  0:53         ` John B. Matthews
2009-07-14 13:49           ` Nicholas Paul Collin Gloucester
2009-07-14 15:16             ` John B. Matthews
2009-07-14 17:29               ` Nicholas Paul Collin Gloucester
2009-07-14 20:18               ` Georg Bauhaus [this message]
2009-07-14 21:10                 ` Ada in teaching (was: Ariane 5 Failure from 1996) Adam Beneschan
2009-07-14 22:36                 ` John B. Matthews
2009-07-14 23:42                   ` Ada in teaching Georg Bauhaus
2009-07-15  1:03                     ` (see below)
2009-07-15 15:08                     ` John B. Matthews
2009-07-15 15:36                       ` John McCabe
2009-07-15 18:28                         ` John B. Matthews
2010-01-08 13:19             ` Ariane 5 Failure from 1996 Nicholas Paul Collin Gloucester
2010-01-08 17:34               ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-07-10 16:01   ` Bjarne Bäckström
2009-07-14 20:50   ` sjw
2009-07-10 15:26 ` Albrecht Käfer
2009-07-10 15:38 ` Adam Beneschan
2009-07-10 15:45 ` jonathan
2009-07-10 18:29   ` John McCabe
2009-07-10 18:44     ` John McCabe
2009-07-10 20:10       ` jonathan
2009-07-11 16:54         ` John McCabe
2009-07-14 14:33           ` Nicholas Paul Collin Gloucester
2009-07-14 14:39             ` John McCabe
2009-07-10 19:46     ` Niklas Holsti
2009-07-11 14:21       ` Albrecht Käfer
2009-07-11 16:55         ` John McCabe
2009-07-10 21:51 ` jimmaureenrogers
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