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From: Pascal Obry <pascal@obry.net>
To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de
Subject: Re: Interpretation of extensions different from Unix/Linux?
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:49:26 +0200
Date: 2009-08-15T14:49:06+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A86AED6.30204@obry.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cbxuxz06dr5r$.9zo0supfl50x.dlg@40tude.net>

Le 15/08/2009 10:10, Dmitry A. Kazakov a �crit :
> Shudder, it is C in Ada. Everything is a String... I am using this solution
> for years in my strings edit library. It is inherently unsafe. UTF-8 string
> must be a separate from String type.

I have sympathy with Dmitry. As one who have worked on the UTF-8 support 
for GNAT on Windows I can tell you that it is pure mess to get something 
working fine. The harder part is to ensure that no multiple conversions 
are done.

Now I'm not sure UTF-8 is what should be supported anyway. Windows offer 
either the plain ASCII (A suffix) or wide (W suffix) version of all 
services dealing with file names. So for the Windows case it would be 
far more efficient to have OS services based on Wide_String (an 
Ada.Wide_Directories for example).

What seems wrong to me is that we have Wide_Text_IO but file names are 
plain string! I don't see why this is so, it would have been better to 
use a Wide_String. Given that Wide_Text_IO is recent I think it would 
even be good to "fix" that in the next release. I understand that 
Wide_Text_IO is dealing with Wide_Character in the content of the 
file... but it would even be better to also handle name of the file as 
Wide_String. It is always possible to convert between string and 
wide_string anyway.

I may be missing something... but as an implementor and user I find this 
just broken.

Pascal.

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-15 12:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-01 17:53 Interpretation of extensions different from Unix/Linux? vlc
2009-08-02 17:13 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2009-08-04 11:31   ` vlc
2009-08-04 11:44     ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2009-08-04 11:57       ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-08-04 12:29         ` vlc
2009-08-04 13:43         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-14  4:33           ` Randy Brukardt
2009-08-14  7:37             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-04 12:25       ` vlc
2009-08-04 19:18         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-08-04 19:52           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-04 20:45             ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-08-04 21:22               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-04 22:04                 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-08-05  8:33                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-05 16:07                     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-08-05 16:35                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-05 17:49                         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-08-05 18:16                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-05 19:27                             ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-08-05 19:50                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-05 20:46                                 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-08-06  7:43                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-05 21:33                               ` Robert A Duff
2009-08-05 19:45                           ` vlc
2009-08-05 19:56                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-14  4:56                     ` Randy Brukardt
2009-08-14  8:01                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-14 23:02                         ` Adam Beneschan
2009-08-14 23:54                         ` Randy Brukardt
2009-08-15  8:10                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-15 12:49                             ` Pascal Obry [this message]
2009-08-15 13:23                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-15 15:11                                 ` Pascal Obry
2009-08-15 17:11                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-15 20:07                                     ` Pascal Obry
2009-08-16  7:26                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-17 22:28                             ` Randy Brukardt
2009-08-18  0:32                               ` Adam Beneschan
2009-08-18 20:48                                 ` Randy Brukardt
2009-08-19  4:08                                   ` stefan-lucks
2009-08-19 22:01                                     ` Randy Brukardt
2009-08-19  7:37                                   ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2009-08-19 16:10                                   ` Adam Beneschan
2009-08-19 22:11                                     ` Randy Brukardt
2009-08-18  7:48                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-18 20:37                                 ` Randy Brukardt
2009-08-19  8:04                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-19 10:32                                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-08-19 12:11                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-19 15:21                                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-08-19 22:40                                     ` Randy Brukardt
2009-08-20  8:00                                       ` Variable- and fixed-length-character strings (Was: Interpretation of extensions different from Unix/Linux?) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2009-08-20 19:40                                       ` Interpretation of extensions different from Unix/Linux? Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-21  0:08                                         ` Randy Brukardt
2009-08-21  7:43                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-21 22:10                                             ` Randy Brukardt
2009-08-22  7:27                                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-09-01  1:50                                                 ` Randy Brukardt
2009-09-01  7:28                                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-09-02  3:41                                                     ` Stephen Leake
2009-09-02  7:17                                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-09-02 19:49                                                         ` tmoran
2009-09-03  7:41                                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-09-03 17:27                                                             ` tmoran
2009-09-03 20:44                                                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-09-03 22:22                                                                 ` Randy Brukardt
2009-09-04  7:40                                                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-09-05  1:58                                                                     ` Randy Brukardt
2009-09-05  2:08                                                                     ` Randy Brukardt
2009-09-05  8:59                                                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-21 10:11                                           ` Enumeration of network shared under Windows (was: Interpretation of extensions different from Unix/Linux?) Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-15 16:01                           ` Interpretation of extensions different from Unix/Linux? Vadim Godunko
2009-08-16 13:13                           ` Stephen Leake
2009-08-14  4:46                 ` Randy Brukardt
2009-08-14  9:00                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-04 21:19           ` vlc
2009-08-14  5:19     ` Randy Brukardt
2009-08-14  6:13       ` Wilcards in Linux (was: Interpretation of extensions different from Unix/Linux?) stefan-lucks
2009-08-14  6:24         ` stefan-lucks
2009-08-14 10:05         ` Wilcards in Linux Markus Schoepflin
2009-08-14 10:22           ` Ludovic Brenta
2009-08-14 18:20             ` Tero Koskinen
2009-08-19 20:39       ` Interpretation of extensions different from Unix/Linux? Keith Thompson
2009-08-19 22:09         ` Robert A Duff
2009-08-20  7:49           ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2009-08-20 15:56             ` Adam Beneschan
2009-08-20 21:58               ` sjw
2009-08-20 19:44             ` Robert A Duff
2009-08-20 21:34               ` Adam Beneschan
2009-08-20 22:03                 ` (see below)
2009-08-21  0:55                 ` tmoran
2009-08-20 23:55               ` Randy Brukardt
2009-08-21 17:58               ` Keith Thompson
2009-08-21 18:34                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-21 19:32                 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-08-21 21:34                 ` Robert A Duff
2009-08-21 22:06                   ` Hyman Rosen
2009-08-24 19:51                   ` Keith Thompson
2009-08-28  0:27                     ` Robert A Duff
2009-08-28 13:15                       ` Anders Wirzenius
2009-08-28 15:02                         ` Robert A Duff
2009-08-21  8:45             ` Stephen Leake
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