* GNAT & GPS on Linpus Linux @ 2009-04-02 12:01 gautier_niouzes 2009-04-02 14:22 ` Georg Bauhaus ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: gautier_niouzes @ 2009-04-02 12:01 UTC (permalink / raw) Hello, I am about to buy a mini-laptop with the Linpus operating system installed, which is a variety of Linux if I understand well. Did someone have experiences with GNAT and GPS (GPL) on such a beast ? Any advice about which version / distro / whatever to use ? I have close to zero experience with Linux and would like to keep the maintenance to the minimum - in order to keep enough time for programming :-). TIA ! _________________________________________________________ Gautier's Ada programming -- http://sf.net/users/gdemont/ NB: For a direct answer, e-mail address on the Web site! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: GNAT & GPS on Linpus Linux 2009-04-02 12:01 GNAT & GPS on Linpus Linux gautier_niouzes @ 2009-04-02 14:22 ` Georg Bauhaus 2009-04-02 16:12 ` gautier_niouzes 2009-04-02 23:43 ` anon 2009-04-07 10:03 ` Alex R. Mosteo 2 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Georg Bauhaus @ 2009-04-02 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw) gautier_niouzes@hotmail.com schrieb: > Hello, > I am about to buy a mini-laptop with the Linpus operating system > installed, which is a variety of Linux if I understand well. > Did someone have experiences with GNAT and GPS (GPL) on such a beast ? > Any advice about which version / distro / whatever to use ? > I have close to zero experience with Linux and would like to keep the > maintenance to the minimum - in order to keep enough time for > programming :-). > TIA ! Make sure that your GNU/Linux distribution comes with gcc, or has a known way of installing gcc. This should give you a good start. My order of preference would be - Debian - Ubuntu - anything that can run AdaCore's GPL Edition of GNAT. *However*, there may be a few glitches. At least one of the small ones from ASUS comes with a Xandros variant installed. While this is Debian-based, it is really tricky to get a gcc for this, if possible at all (other than just copying the necessary tree of files from some compatible computer). You'll probably loose some multimedia support if you install some other GNU/Linux. See http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: GNAT & GPS on Linpus Linux 2009-04-02 14:22 ` Georg Bauhaus @ 2009-04-02 16:12 ` gautier_niouzes 2009-04-02 19:59 ` Ludovic Brenta 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: gautier_niouzes @ 2009-04-02 16:12 UTC (permalink / raw) On 2 Apr., 16:22, Georg Bauhaus wrote: > Make sure that your GNU/Linux distribution comes with gcc, > or has a known way of installing gcc. > This should give you a good start. My order of preference > would be > - Debian > - Ubuntu > - anything that can run AdaCore's GPL Edition of GNAT. > > *However*, there may be a few glitches. At least one of the > small ones from ASUS comes with a Xandros variant installed. > While this is Debian-based, it is really tricky to > get a gcc for this, if possible at all (other than just > copying the necessary tree of files from some compatible > computer). You'll probably loose some multimedia support > if you install some other GNU/Linux. > > See http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ Thanks - all I can say is that it is the Linux flavour described here: http://www.linpus.com/products_1.php?pid=2 It seems to be a descendent of Fedora. _________________________________________________________ Gautier's Ada programming -- http://sf.net/users/gdemont/ NB: For a direct answer, e-mail address on the Web site! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: GNAT & GPS on Linpus Linux 2009-04-02 16:12 ` gautier_niouzes @ 2009-04-02 19:59 ` Ludovic Brenta 2009-04-18 15:36 ` Gautier 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Ludovic Brenta @ 2009-04-02 19:59 UTC (permalink / raw) Gautier wrote on comp.lang.ada: > On 2 Apr., 16:22, Georg Bauhaus wrote: > > > Make sure that your GNU/Linux distribution comes with gcc, > > or has a known way of installing gcc. > > This should give you a good start. My order of preference > > would be > > - Debian > > - Ubuntu > > - anything that can run AdaCore's GPL Edition of GNAT. > > > *However*, there may be a few glitches. At least one of the > > small ones from ASUS comes with a Xandros variant installed. > > While this is Debian-based, it is really tricky to > > get a gcc for this, if possible at all (other than just > > copying the necessary tree of files from some compatible > > computer). You'll probably loose some multimedia support > > if you install some other GNU/Linux. > > > Seehttp://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ > > Thanks - all I can say is that it is the Linux flavour described here: > http://www.linpus.com/products_1.php?pid=2 > It seems to be a descendent of Fedora. This seems to be optimized for low-cost, low-speed machines. Are you sure the hardware you're considering is appropriate for programming? i.e. does it have a sufficiently large screen that you can read your program, a sufficiently largee keyboard that you can type comfortably on it, sufficient RAM, disk and CPU for compiling? I won't comment further on the distribution because you probably know what I think already :) -- Ludovic Brenta. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: GNAT & GPS on Linpus Linux 2009-04-02 19:59 ` Ludovic Brenta @ 2009-04-18 15:36 ` Gautier 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Gautier @ 2009-04-18 15:36 UTC (permalink / raw) Ludovic Brenta a �crit : > This seems to be optimized for low-cost, low-speed machines. Are you > sure the hardware you're considering is appropriate for programming? > i.e. does it have a sufficiently large screen that you can read your > program, a sufficiently largee keyboard that you can type comfortably > on it, sufficient RAM, disk and CPU for compiling? The screen is very small, but with a 1024x600 resolution. For the keyboard, it depends on finger size :-). Sure these two things are not ideal for hours-long programming, but anyway you can plug in any big screen, read keyboard and a mouse. RAM: 1 GB Disk: 160 GB ! CPU: 1.6 GHz I built a large project which is pretty compiler-challenging and it seems not a lot slower than on "serious" office hardware... > I won't comment further on the distribution because you probably know > what I think already :) I think I guess. I am just too lazy to install the very best one :-). A working one is already fine. Maybe it will change (the tamagochi syndrom :-) ). _________________________________________________________ Gautier's Ada programming -- http://sf.net/users/gdemont/ NB: For a direct answer, e-mail address on the Web site! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: GNAT & GPS on Linpus Linux 2009-04-02 12:01 GNAT & GPS on Linpus Linux gautier_niouzes 2009-04-02 14:22 ` Georg Bauhaus @ 2009-04-02 23:43 ` anon 2009-04-07 10:03 ` Alex R. Mosteo 2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: anon @ 2009-04-02 23:43 UTC (permalink / raw) If you want to use Ada with a Netbook or mini I would suggest getting a system with ATOM 270 cpu, 2G memory and 16/32G SSD. The SSD allows a longer time between recharging. To find out if GNAT will work. Load the GNAT system and example programs onto a Flash Drive. Install the drive into a USB port on the mimi at the store system. And try to compile and test example programs. Using command line. Note: You can use either VI or KATE/WRITE for your editor and the command line or TERM to compile and build programs. Then try excuting the GPS (will be VGA or low density SVGA mode). Note: The only problem I see is in using the GPS with a 7 to 12 inch screen it might be too hard to see the multi-windows to use. So you might want to use the GPS only when you have access to an external monitor. In <eaac9e71-8cd3-4d79-81a9-921aab1025c7@y7g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, gautier_niouzes@hotmail.com writes: >Hello, >I am about to buy a mini-laptop with the Linpus operating system >installed, which is a variety of Linux if I understand well. >Did someone have experiences with GNAT and GPS (GPL) on such a beast ? >Any advice about which version / distro / whatever to use ? >I have close to zero experience with Linux and would like to keep the >maintenance to the minimum - in order to keep enough time for >programming :-). >TIA ! >_________________________________________________________ >Gautier's Ada programming -- http://sf.net/users/gdemont/ >NB: For a direct answer, e-mail address on the Web site! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: GNAT & GPS on Linpus Linux 2009-04-02 12:01 GNAT & GPS on Linpus Linux gautier_niouzes 2009-04-02 14:22 ` Georg Bauhaus 2009-04-02 23:43 ` anon @ 2009-04-07 10:03 ` Alex R. Mosteo 2009-04-09 22:34 ` Brian Gaffney 2009-04-11 19:49 ` Gautier 2 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Alex R. Mosteo @ 2009-04-07 10:03 UTC (permalink / raw) gautier_niouzes@hotmail.com wrote: > Hello, > I am about to buy a mini-laptop with the Linpus operating system > installed, which is a variety of Linux if I understand well. > Did someone have experiences with GNAT and GPS (GPL) on such a beast ? > Any advice about which version / distro / whatever to use ? > I have close to zero experience with Linux and would like to keep the > maintenance to the minimum - in order to keep enough time for > programming :-). Perhaps you refer to an Acer Aspire One, which comes with linpus (I have one). I don't like the linpus variant (is an old Fedora 8 with some custom packages that prevent proper use of the full F8 repos), but I still keep it because I love the ultra-fast boot. However, if some day it breaks, I will go for either eeebuntu or the ubuntu netbook remix variants. I've read that most hardware in the aa1 is functional with these, barring some minor things. To your question: never tried to install gnat on linpus, but certainly it works on ubuntu, and you can get ubuntu running on the aa1 with relative ease (although if you have the 512M ram version it can be a real problem. It will boot to desktop okay, but once you open a firefox and something else it will be a lazy dog. And gnat/gcc can require some good memory sometimes). OTOH, once you break out of the default linpus gui, with yum you can install a great deal of F8 packages, which may allow for gnat on linpus. Never tried, though. However you say you have little linux experience, and I'm afraid that in any case you'll need some initial tinkering for any of the options to succeed. So brace yourself... ;) Some links: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne http://www.eeebuntu.org/ http://www.canonical.com/projects/ubuntu/unr ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: GNAT & GPS on Linpus Linux 2009-04-07 10:03 ` Alex R. Mosteo @ 2009-04-09 22:34 ` Brian Gaffney 2009-04-11 19:49 ` Gautier 1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Brian Gaffney @ 2009-04-09 22:34 UTC (permalink / raw) I have an eeePC 900 (9" screen). It comes with Xandros, but I don't use that much, so haven't looked into installing too much on it. But I do have Ubuntu installed on an SD card, with GNAT installed. I have had no problems with that (I don't use GPS, etc.). There are several eee-specific Ubuntu (and other) distributions. What I did was added an eee-specific repository and installed a few packages, including an optimized kernal. I haven't found anything that doesn't work on it. (The only problem with the way I installed was that I needed to use an ethernet cable until I had installed the unique packages - it was just easier.) "Alex R. Mosteo" <alejandro@mosteo.com> wrote in message news:740moaF119la3U1@mid.individual.net... > gautier_niouzes@hotmail.com wrote: > >> Hello, >> I am about to buy a mini-laptop with the Linpus operating system >> installed, which is a variety of Linux if I understand well. >> Did someone have experiences with GNAT and GPS (GPL) on such a beast ? >> Any advice about which version / distro / whatever to use ? >> I have close to zero experience with Linux and would like to keep the >> maintenance to the minimum - in order to keep enough time for >> programming :-). > > Perhaps you refer to an Acer Aspire One, which comes with linpus (I have > one). I don't like the linpus variant (is an old Fedora 8 with some custom > packages that prevent proper use of the full F8 repos), but I still keep > it > because I love the ultra-fast boot. However, if some day it breaks, I will > go for either eeebuntu or the ubuntu netbook remix variants. I've read > that > most hardware in the aa1 is functional with these, barring some minor > things. > > To your question: never tried to install gnat on linpus, but certainly it > works on ubuntu, and you can get ubuntu running on the aa1 with relative > ease (although if you have the 512M ram version it can be a real problem. > It > will boot to desktop okay, but once you open a firefox and something else > it > will be a lazy dog. And gnat/gcc can require some good memory sometimes). > > OTOH, once you break out of the default linpus gui, with yum you can > install > a great deal of F8 packages, which may allow for gnat on linpus. Never > tried, though. > > However you say you have little linux experience, and I'm afraid that in > any > case you'll need some initial tinkering for any of the options to succeed. > So brace yourself... ;) > > Some links: > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne > http://www.eeebuntu.org/ > http://www.canonical.com/projects/ubuntu/unr > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: GNAT & GPS on Linpus Linux 2009-04-07 10:03 ` Alex R. Mosteo 2009-04-09 22:34 ` Brian Gaffney @ 2009-04-11 19:49 ` Gautier 2009-04-18 19:30 ` Gautier 2009-04-30 10:09 ` Alex R. Mosteo 1 sibling, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Gautier @ 2009-04-11 19:49 UTC (permalink / raw) Alex R. Mosteo: > Perhaps you refer to an Acer Aspire One, which comes with linpus (I have > one). I don't like the linpus variant (is an old Fedora 8 with some custom > packages that prevent proper use of the full F8 repos), but I still keep it > because I love the ultra-fast boot. It's exactly that beast - really amazing! The last time I had the impression to make a technological leap was many years ago. I'll try to install GNAT without changing the system: the idea is to have at least the same comfort as on Windows (and for what I can tell now all the pre-installed stuff by Acer is a lot faster and easier to use). I have some ancient exposure to Unix (sgi) which helps for the more technical side. Thanks all for your help! Gautier _________________________________________________________ Gautier's Ada programming -- http://sf.net/users/gdemont/ NB: For a direct answer, e-mail address on the Web site! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: GNAT & GPS on Linpus Linux 2009-04-11 19:49 ` Gautier @ 2009-04-18 19:30 ` Gautier 2009-04-30 10:09 ` Alex R. Mosteo 1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Gautier @ 2009-04-18 19:30 UTC (permalink / raw) A followup on that topic, now that I have GNAT (GPL 2008) running on this netbook: In case it could help people in a similar context, here are the steps to successfully install GNAT on a machine with a pre-installed "Linpus Lite" Linux system. The first two steps are rather to facilitate the installation of any software and are not specific to GNAT. 1) From the UI, start xfce_settings_show (you get it through a terminal window (file manager: File menu) or via Alt-F2). Select the "Desktop" icon, the "Behavior" tab and enable the "show desktop menu on right click" option. 2) From the Desktop menu available now, you have access to *lots* of things (applications, options) you hadn't access to before. Select System, then Add/Remove software. Install any gcc-based development tool. It is for having the "make" utility available as well as the right libraries in the right place (/usr/lib) for the GNAT linking to complete successfully. The proposed Ada pack is superfluous (a very old version). 3) Download the GPL GNAT from http://libre.adacore.com/ and unpack it some directory. 4) In a terminal window, go to directory of step 3 if necessary and type sudo ./doinstall and say yes to all questions... 5) To have GNAT available from any directory, you need to change the path: in the /home/user/.bashrc file, add the line: export PATH=/usr/gnat/bin:$PATH -- _________________________________________________________ Gautier's Ada programming -- http://sf.net/users/gdemont/ NB: For a direct answer, e-mail address on the Web site! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: GNAT & GPS on Linpus Linux 2009-04-11 19:49 ` Gautier 2009-04-18 19:30 ` Gautier @ 2009-04-30 10:09 ` Alex R. Mosteo 1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Alex R. Mosteo @ 2009-04-30 10:09 UTC (permalink / raw) Gautier wrote: > Alex R. Mosteo: > >> Perhaps you refer to an Acer Aspire One, which comes with linpus (I have >> one). I don't like the linpus variant (is an old Fedora 8 with some >> custom packages that prevent proper use of the full F8 repos), but I >> still keep it because I love the ultra-fast boot. > > It's exactly that beast - really amazing! The last time I had the > impression to make a technological leap was many years ago. I'll try to > install GNAT without changing the system: the idea is to have at least > the same comfort as on Windows (and for what I can tell now all the > pre-installed stuff by Acer is a lot faster and easier to use). > I have some ancient exposure to Unix (sgi) which helps for the more > technical side. Well, just the other day I got fed up of the crippled linpus when yum ceased working for no clear reason (it just hung up). So I gave a shot at the just released ubuntu netbook remix 9.04 and I can say that I'm very satisfied. Everything works out of the box* and it's pretty nice visually speaking. Since I've got GNAT working in another ubuntu 9.04 box without issue, this is also an option. [*] Wireless led doesn't work and the right card reader is not hot- pluggable. Boot time is longer but still feels quick enough. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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