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From: csq031@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu
Subject: Re: ada-c++ productivity
Date: 17 Mar 91 20:26:56 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4921@ns-mx.uiowa.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1991Mar17.142756.25676@ecst.csuchico.edu

In article <1991Mar17.142756.25676@ecst.csuchico.edu> rreid@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ralph Reid III) writes:
>I don't know where these companies are digging up these kind of
>unproductive machine operators (I hesitate to call them real
>programmers), but they would never get through the computer science
>program here at Chico State.  It kind of makes me wonder what schools
>they came from, if they even have degrees.  The kind of productivity
>discussed in this article sounds like the level I might expect from
>beginning programming students at a junior college.  I would like to
>know what in this world could reduce a serious programmer's
>productivity to these levels.
>
>-- 
Lines of code per day is an absurd measure at best.  Using it in contracts
is just a way of lulling people who care about such things into thinking
that programmers (and software companies) know what they're doing and
that their output is quantifiable.

The actual situation (as most people know) is that when you set out to
write something non-trivial, that hasn't been done already, you're
much more like Lewis and Clark setting out in canoes than you are like
a machinist putting a block of steel into the lathe. This scares the
living shit out of bean counters.

But anyway, if you measure lines/day after the fact, i.e after the
program has been designed, written, tested, documented, beta-tested, and
accepted as done by the customer, you'll find 3-10 lines per code a
day per programmer to be fairly respectable.  If the program really
works well, most customers wouldn't care if they only did 1 line per
day, so long as it was finished in a timely manner.


--
             Kent Williams --- williams@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu 
"'Is this heaven?' --- 'No, this is Iowa'" - from the movie "Field of Dreams"
"This isn't heaven, ... this is Cleveland" - Harry Allard, in "The Stupids Die"

  reply	other threads:[~1991-03-17 20:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1991-03-07 16:31 ada-c++ productivity Craig C Johnson
1991-03-08 20:58 ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-10 15:12 ` Joachim Wiese
1991-03-13 23:12   ` Joe Buck
1991-03-15  1:00     ` Robert I. Eachus
1991-03-15 22:46       ` Larry M. Jordan
1991-03-16  0:06         ` Craig Chambers
1991-03-16 20:52           ` Ted Holden
1991-03-17  8:38             ` MUNTS PHILLIP A
1991-03-17 14:27             ` Ralph Reid III
1991-03-17 20:26               ` csq031 [this message]
1991-03-18  4:57               ` Michael Feldman
1991-03-18 13:25               ` Matthew S. Granger
1991-03-18 23:17               ` Paul Stachour
1991-03-19 21:17                 ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-19 16:14               ` klimas
1991-03-25 22:01               ` Terry J. Westley
1991-03-18  2:12             ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-18 18:13             ` arny.b.engelson
1991-03-19  7:44               ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-18 22:12             ` martin
1991-03-16 19:02         ` Ralph Johnson
1991-03-19 16:40           ` klimas
1991-03-21  3:12             ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-17  0:47         ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-18 23:55           ` adam
1991-03-25 12:42         ` Steven D. Litvinchouk
1991-03-17  0:40     ` Jim Showalter
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1991-03-18 15:27 simonian richard 66449
     [not found] <668465900@<jls>
1991-03-20 14:03 ` ryer
1991-03-21 15:26   ` Gary W Smith
1991-03-21 18:50     ` Depriest
1991-03-26  2:32       ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-26 14:57         ` Michael Feldman
1991-03-27  3:09           ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-29 20:30 ` ryer
1991-04-01 14:15   ` Depriest
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