From: Adam Beneschan <adam@irvine.com>
Subject: Re: Numerical calculations: Why not use fixed point types for everything?
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:25:30 -0800 (PST)
Date: 2013-01-17T08:25:30-08:00 [thread overview]
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On Thursday, January 17, 2013 2:33:28 AM UTC-8, Ada novice wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have been thinking that since with floating-point representation the distribution of model numbers gets worse (more and more wider spacing) with large numbers leading to less accurate representation of a number, is it better to just go for fixed-point types e.g. in
>
>
> type Position is delta 1.0**(-12) range 0.0 to 100_000
This must be a typo ... 1.0**(-12) is just 1, isn't it?
> and define every variable similarly so that we have an equally spaced distribution of the model numbers between the lower and upper bounds?
>
> Why not just fixed-point types in numerical calculations?
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> And why not just use decimal fixed point types as in
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> type Velocity is delta 1E-10 digits 15
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> for example if we know what magnitudes of the Velocity are to be expected?
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> I understand that it is a question of portability as well as the actual delta that would be used would perhaps not be the same for all machines and for all compilers.
I can think of two reasons why using floating-point may be better, but this depends on the application:
(1) Floating-point numbers have a greater range, because the exponent is part of the number. Thus, an IEEE 64-bit floating-point value can represent positive numbers as large as 1.7*10**308 or as small as 2.2*10**(-308); a fixed-point number that represented all those possible values would have to have a whole lot of bits.
(2) Many processors have built-in support for mathematical functions on floating-point values (square root, trig functions, log, e**x). If your program does lots of those, you'll probably want to use floating-point numbers instead of calling library functions to do the computation (slow) or constantly converting back and forth between fixed- and floating-point.
If neither of those is an issue, then it may be better to use fixed point.
-- Adam
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2013-01-17 10:33 Numerical calculations: Why not use fixed point types for everything? Ada novice
2013-01-17 14:40 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2013-01-17 16:16 ` Adam Beneschan
2013-01-17 17:00 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-01-17 16:25 ` Adam Beneschan [this message]
2013-01-18 9:17 ` Ada novice
2013-01-18 17:24 ` J-P. Rosen
2013-01-18 17:52 ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-01-18 18:15 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-01-18 18:59 ` Adam Beneschan
2013-01-19 4:41 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-01-19 6:26 ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-01-19 14:14 ` Robert A Duff
2013-01-25 12:16 ` Paul Colin Gloster
2013-01-24 10:55 ` Ada novice
2013-01-24 11:47 ` Simon Wright
2013-01-24 14:21 ` Ada novice
2013-01-20 0:05 ` Robin Vowels
2013-01-18 23:06 ` Robin Vowels
2013-01-18 19:09 ` Adam Beneschan
2013-01-18 21:39 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-01-19 7:02 ` Ada novice
2013-01-25 12:09 ` Paul Colin Gloster
2013-01-25 12:23 ` Paul Colin Gloster
2013-01-28 9:09 ` Ada novice
2013-02-01 10:53 ` Ada novice
2013-02-01 15:01 ` Shark8
2013-02-02 18:55 ` Ada novice
2013-02-03 4:05 ` Shark8
2013-02-04 6:23 ` Ada novice
2013-02-04 6:43 ` Niklas Holsti
2013-02-04 7:27 ` Ada novice
2013-02-04 9:37 ` Niklas Holsti
2013-02-04 10:09 ` Ada novice
2013-02-04 14:24 ` Niklas Holsti
2013-02-04 16:44 ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-02-04 21:12 ` Niklas Holsti
2013-02-04 17:31 ` Robert A Duff
2013-02-04 21:20 ` Niklas Holsti
2013-02-02 21:08 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2013-02-04 6:17 ` Ada novice
2013-02-05 2:27 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-02-06 7:11 ` Ada novice
2013-02-07 6:03 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-02-07 8:43 ` Shark8
2013-02-08 3:17 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-02-08 6:20 ` Ada novice
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