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From: Pascal Obry <pascal@obry.net>
To: Paul Hsieh <websnarf@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: computer language used to program Mars Lander
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:37:39 +0200
Date: 2008-07-18T20:37:41+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4880E2F3.4000303@obry.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <13a2f4f0-6ec1-4570-b6bf-1621cfb32db2@a2g2000prm.googlegroups.com>

Paul,

> The small memory footprint and VxWorks environment probably makes C a
> very attractive language for the NASA guys.  If they used Ada, they
> would be slower, have much larger memory requirements and have a very
> hard time debugging problems remotely.

That's just good-old-wrong-assumption made by lot of people. Ada is 
slower? I see nothing slow in Ada which is a language. Does a language 
has speed now?

More seriously, some benchmarks have shown that some Ada compiler have 
been generating faster code than C compiler on a given application. And 
of course, some other benchmarks have shown the opposite.

The memory requirement for Ada is wrong too. Using a zero-foot-print 
runtime you have zero memory requirement from the runtime.

>> I suspect its a damn sight easier to prove C correct than C++.

Still lot easier to prove Ada correct. And in any case on critical 
applications there is no Ada nor C but some subset that makes the 
languages safer (e.g. SPARK for Ada or MISRA-C for C).

Please let's try to at least have constructive criticisms.

Thanks.
Pascal.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-07-18 18:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-14 11:18 computer language used to program Mars Lander jhc0033
2008-07-14 11:21 ` jacob navia
2008-07-14 21:27   ` Maciej Sobczak
2008-07-14 11:49 ` Nick Keighley
2008-07-15  7:27   ` Maciej Sobczak
2008-07-16  6:02   ` jhc0033
2008-07-16 21:57     ` Brian
2008-07-23 14:43     ` Michael Oswald
2008-07-23 22:53       ` Larry Elmore
2008-07-24  6:59       ` jhc0033
2008-07-24  7:18         ` Stefan Scholl
2008-07-24 12:14           ` Grant Rettke
2008-07-24  7:39         ` John Thingstad
2008-07-24  7:51           ` jhc0033
2008-07-24  9:40             ` John Thingstad
2008-07-24 20:39             ` Brian
2008-07-25  6:10               ` jhc0033
2008-07-25 20:29                 ` Brian
2008-07-26  3:03                   ` jhc0033
2008-07-26  6:09                     ` Brian
2008-07-24  8:40         ` pls.mrjm
2008-07-24  9:04         ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2008-07-24 11:35           ` Michael Oswald
2008-07-24 12:15             ` Stefan Scholl
2008-07-24 12:36               ` Michael Oswald
2008-07-25 21:19         ` j.oke
2008-07-25 22:34           ` Adam Beneschan
2008-07-25 23:30             ` Joost Kremers
2008-07-26 12:41             ` j.oke
2008-07-26 12:51             ` j.oke
2008-07-17 21:56   ` Paul Hsieh
2008-07-17 22:30     ` Chris Thomasson
2008-07-17 23:03       ` Default User
2008-07-18  0:03         ` Chris Thomasson
2008-07-18  0:02       ` Gary Scott
2008-07-18  0:08         ` Chris Thomasson
2008-07-18 18:02     ` Colin Paul Gloster
2008-07-18 18:51       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-07-18 18:37     ` Pascal Obry [this message]
2008-07-18 19:45     ` Gautier
2008-07-18 20:26       ` jacob navia
2008-07-18 21:01         ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-07-18 21:14         ` Gary Scott
2008-07-18 20:45       ` Richard Tobin
2008-07-22  8:39       ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2008-07-22 10:45         ` Nick Keighley
2008-07-22 10:50           ` Richard
2008-07-22 11:20           ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2008-07-22 21:11             ` CBFalconer
2008-07-23  8:40               ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2008-07-23 13:00                 ` CBFalconer
2008-07-26 11:13               ` Antoninus Twink
2008-07-22 12:05           ` Chris Dollin
2008-07-22 13:39           ` Walter Banks
2008-07-14 15:31 ` george.priv
2008-07-14 15:38 ` Keith Thompson
2008-07-14 21:29   ` CBFalconer
2008-07-15 12:04 ` Stephen Leake
2008-07-15 13:55   ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-07-15 23:35   ` Phaedrus
2008-07-16  5:21     ` christoph.grein
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