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From: Georg Bauhaus <rm.tsoh.plus-bug.bauhaus@maps.futureapps.de>
Subject: Re: GnatBench (from GPL edition)
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 09:39:00 +0200
Date: 2008-04-01T09:39:01+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47f1e695$0$4762$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fsruh4$pbe$1@jacob-sparre.dk>

Randy Brukardt wrote:

> My understanding is that to write Eclipse plugins you have to write
> in Java.

You could try Ada, too, because there are two Ada compilers emitting
Java byte code (fairly well). Compilers for some other languages
do this, too. Sun is spending money on getting Scala and Ruby
running on the JVM. All languages are integrated with the Java
class library then.


> I understand the market pressures, but on a practical basis, I don't
> understand the big deal about bloated IDEs anyway. Everything that is
> worthwhile in an IDE is language and compiler-specific anyway (debuggers,
> error messages, syntax, symbol browsing, project management),

Itegration (like in document centric working) just in case the
only integration you practically get on Windows is integratation
of the Microsoft operating system with other Microsofts offerings.
(Yesterday I heard that in Norway, an ISO country vote of 5 "For",
19 "Against" counts as a "For". This vote was about the planned
ISO standardized office documents file formats. Microsoft
keeps advertising theirs as "Office Open XML" (in this word order) ...)

> so what can
> this empty framework actually accomplish?

In a sense, the same thing that Ada was meant to accomplish?
So that there aren't so many IDEs.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-04-01  7:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-20 16:35 GnatBench (from GPL edition) John McCabe
2008-03-20 16:46 ` John McCabe
2008-03-20 22:08   ` Britt Snodgrass
2008-03-25 18:06     ` John McCabe
2008-03-25 20:32       ` Britt Snodgrass
2008-03-25 21:17         ` John McCabe
2008-03-26 21:07           ` Simon Wright
2008-03-26 22:05             ` John McCabe
2008-03-27  9:07               ` Stephen Leake
2008-03-27 10:08                 ` John McCabe
2008-03-29  0:28                   ` Stephen Leake
2008-03-29  2:48                     ` Britt Snodgrass
2008-03-29 23:32                       ` John McCabe
2008-03-30  8:24                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-03-31 14:23                           ` John McCabe
2008-03-31 16:12                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-03-31 16:43                               ` John McCabe
2008-04-01  0:09                         ` Randy Brukardt
2008-04-01  4:19                           ` Eric Hughes
2008-04-01  7:39                           ` Georg Bauhaus [this message]
2008-04-01 19:52                             ` Randy Brukardt
2008-04-01 19:58                             ` Randy Brukardt
2008-04-02 21:03                           ` John McCabe
2008-04-03  3:20                             ` Randy Brukardt
2008-04-03  7:35                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-04-03 10:20                               ` John McCabe
2008-04-04  2:20                                 ` Randy Brukardt
2008-04-04 22:50                                   ` John McCabe
2008-04-03 10:14                           ` Steffen Huber
2008-04-01 17:06                         ` Pascal Obry
2008-03-29 23:10                     ` John McCabe
2008-03-26 10:19         ` John McCabe
2008-03-26 14:35           ` Britt Snodgrass
2008-03-26 14:40             ` Britt Snodgrass
2008-03-26 18:14             ` John McCabe
2008-04-29  9:34 ` John McCabe
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