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From: Martin Krischik <krischik@users.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: Why I hate Gtk+/GNOME (from the perspective of an Ada supporter)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:45:32 +0100
Date: 2008-01-25T11:45:32+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4799bdcc$1@news.post.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e61443f7-eec5-4a65-ba85-5418e808273b@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com>

Ludovic Brenta schrieb:
> Martin Krischik wrote:
>> When you just install GNOME from OpenSuSE 10.3 and only apply security
>> updates then GNOME works pretty stable these days (hasn't always been
>> that way - 0.x and 1.x was atrocious). However: I advice strictly
>> against activating the "GNOME STABLE" [1] upgrade channel.
>>
>> The best what will happen to you is that smart [2] will report version
>> conflicts and will refuse to install the mess.
>>
>> There worse what can happen is that smart will resolve the version
>> conflicts with 32 bit libraries - on your 64 bit system. Leaving you
>> with an unusable system. And downgrading is the one area where rpm based
>> installer have not yet caught up with dep based installer.
> 
> I'm surprised with your horror stories. Surely there must be other
> platforms besides Debian where GTK+ is solid, dependable, and
> buildable?

As I said: fresh off the DVD GNOME is quite ok. I think the problem are 
the dependencies - If - for example for a DVD version - they are 
carefully tested and resolved for the hole distribution the result will 
be stable.

The same when AdaCore carefully creates one oft there Pro or GPL releases.

Or when the GIMP Team creates a Windows GIMP.

But never try a hot upgrade - especially when you use a 64 bit system. 
The GNOME community does not act as one big team (as the KDE community 
does) and it only takes one of the many micro teams to forget to create 
a 64 bit version of there library and disaster will avalange from there.

Debian on the other as meta team can compensate for Gtk+/GNOMES 
organisational and design shortcomings.

As it is the best news of the young new year is the KDE 4 version for 
Windows and the best Ada related news of last year where the restart of 
the QtAda project.

Martin
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Ada programming at: http://ada.krischik.com



  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-25 10:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-23  8:54 [blog] Why I hate Gtk+/GNOME (from the perspective of an Ada supporter) Martin Krischik
2008-01-23 12:35 ` petter_fryklund
2008-01-23 16:15   ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-23 16:22 ` [blog] " Ludovic Brenta
2008-01-23 16:39   ` Tero Koskinen
2008-01-24  7:40     ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-24  7:44   ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-24  9:13     ` Maxim Reznik
2008-01-24 11:04       ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-01-24 11:50         ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-24 15:55         ` Brian Drummond
2008-01-24 17:08           ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-24 17:21           ` Pascal Obry
2008-01-25  7:28             ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-25  8:37               ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-01-25 10:45                 ` Martin Krischik [this message]
2008-01-25 10:56                   ` Pascal Obry
2008-01-25 12:17                     ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-25 13:09                       ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-01-25 15:05                         ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-25 15:53                         ` Stefan Bellon
2008-01-26  9:53                     ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-24 11:52       ` Martin Krischik
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