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From: Georg Bauhaus <rm.tsho+bauhaus@maps.futureapps.de>
Subject: Re: The future of Ada is at risk
Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:12:02 +0100
Date: 2008-01-06T23:12:02+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47815232$0$25381$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1r4o6yx7es25v$.p02lmth61gt0$.dlg@40tude.net>

Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:

>>>  Usually such problems have algorithmic nature.
>> Database performance problems are just like functional
>> language performance problems: The simple and elegant
>> expressions tend to be too resource consuming and must be
>> rewritten until they become efficient.
>> How would a purely relational type system remove this issue?
> 
> What has it to do with bindings? If you think that my goal is to search for
> the Holly Grail of RA, then you get me wrong. I don't care about relational
> purity.

OK, I see. Then SQL should be fine.
For me, a good compromise is this: problem domain abstractions
in Ada and then the most direct link between my Ada types and
the linguistic mechanism controlling the RDB: plain old SQL.
My programs are then written in two languages, and the connection
between the two source parts is easy, regular, and manageable.

Every ambitious binding I have seen so far isn't near the ease of a
working solution: basically, write SQL.  The most powerful thing I have
seen is CLSQL. Since Lisp tends to be most useful as a metaprogramming
language, you can do all kinds of complex magic in very clever
convolutions. Besides that, if you think of your RA type system,
will it look like SQL using Ada?




  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-06 22:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-29  3:06 The future of Ada is at risk Rico Secada
2007-12-29 10:19 ` Pascal Obry
2007-12-29 19:24   ` Jerry van Dijk
2007-12-29 11:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-12-29 11:21 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-12-30 12:30   ` Florian Weimer
2007-12-30 19:42     ` okellogg
2007-12-30 20:22       ` Florian Weimer
2007-12-31  0:21         ` Samuel Tardieu
2007-12-30 23:30       ` Simon Wright
2007-12-31  8:12     ` I. Levashew
2007-12-31  8:43       ` Florian Weimer
2007-12-31 10:16       ` Rico Secada
2007-12-31 10:31         ` Florian Weimer
2007-12-31 15:20         ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-12-31 21:35           ` Paul
2008-01-01 12:41           ` Florian Weimer
2007-12-29 16:19 ` I. Levashew
2007-12-29 16:24 ` anon
2007-12-29 19:16   ` Rico Secada
2007-12-30  0:38     ` The future of C# " Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-07  8:01   ` The future of Ada " Nasser Abbasi
2008-01-07 11:09     ` Robert A Duff
2008-01-07 11:54       ` Nasser Abbasi
2007-12-30  8:04 ` Phaedrus
2007-12-30  8:56   ` Pascal Obry
2007-12-30 21:42     ` Phaedrus
2007-12-30 23:08       ` Brian May
2007-12-30 23:32         ` Phaedrus
2007-12-31 12:33       ` I. Levashew
2008-01-02 10:46         ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-12-30 11:08   ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-12-30 22:23     ` Phaedrus
2007-12-30 21:30   ` adaworks
2007-12-30 23:33     ` Phaedrus
2007-12-31  0:33   ` Samuel Tardieu
2008-01-01 14:14 ` Gautier
2008-01-01 14:46   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-04  8:45 ` Agyaras
2008-01-04  9:36   ` Pascal Obry
2008-01-04 13:13   ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-06  9:34     ` Agyaras
2008-01-06 10:26       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-06 12:03       ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-06 13:03       ` Frank J. Lhota
2008-01-07  3:46       ` Brian May
2008-01-08  2:22       ` Randy Brukardt
2008-01-04 23:17   ` Brian May
2008-01-05 10:22   ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-01-05 15:16     ` Robert A Duff
2008-01-05 15:36       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-05 15:46         ` Robert A Duff
2008-01-05 16:39           ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-05 17:14           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-06 22:08             ` Robert A Duff
2008-01-09  8:19   ` ahab
2008-01-05 10:21 ` Michael Bode
2008-01-05 10:30   ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-01-05 10:55     ` Michael Bode
2008-01-05 13:09       ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-01-05 13:32         ` Michael Bode
2008-01-05 20:36           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-01-05 22:50             ` Michael Bode
2008-01-05 23:42               ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-01-05 11:11     ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-05 11:40       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-05 13:29         ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-05 14:35           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-05 17:42             ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-05 18:40               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-05 23:47             ` Brian May
2008-01-06  7:03               ` Vadim Godunko
2008-01-06  8:42               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-06 12:05                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-06 12:23                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-06 20:13                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-06 20:50                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-06 22:12                         ` Georg Bauhaus [this message]
2008-01-07  0:11                 ` Brian May
2008-01-07  5:23                   ` Per Sandberg
2008-01-08  0:04                     ` Brian May
2008-01-08  6:53                       ` Simon Wright
2008-01-08 14:35                         ` Vadim Godunko
2008-01-08 20:24                   ` Graham
2008-01-08 20:44                   ` Pascal Obry
2008-01-06  9:23               ` Pascal Obry
2008-01-07  0:05                 ` Brian May
2008-01-05 20:34   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-01-05 20:52     ` Michael Bode
2008-01-05 21:40       ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-05 23:45       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-01-06 11:16         ` Michael Bode
2008-01-06 19:20           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-01-06 20:27             ` Michael Bode
2008-01-07 10:23   ` Stephen Leake
2008-01-07 17:54     ` Michael Bode
2008-01-11  7:21 ` Phaedrus
2008-01-11  8:49   ` Maciej Sobczak
2008-01-11 13:10     ` Peter C. Chapin
2008-01-11 15:41     ` Hyman Rosen
2008-01-12 14:31       ` Surfer
2008-01-12 20:54         ` Gautier
2008-01-11 19:58     ` Tero Koskinen
2008-01-11 21:41       ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-11 13:02   ` framefritti
2008-01-11 15:29     ` Peter C. Chapin
2008-01-11 17:24       ` Gary Scott
2008-01-11 18:20   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-01-11 18:51     ` Gary Scott
2008-01-12  0:21       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-01-12  8:15         ` Pascal Obry
2008-01-12 10:11           ` Brian May
2008-01-12 10:24             ` Pascal Obry
2008-01-12 17:43               ` Gary Scott
2008-01-12 18:14                 ` Pascal Obry
2008-01-12 22:24                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-13  3:54                     ` Ray Blaak
2008-01-13 14:05                       ` (see below)
2008-01-14  1:46                         ` Ray Blaak
2008-01-14  1:49                         ` Ray Blaak
2008-01-23  2:52                 ` adaworks
2008-01-12 10:47             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-11 22:32   ` Robert A Duff
2008-01-12  4:06     ` Phaedrus
2008-01-12 15:29       ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-12 20:55     ` jtg
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