From: "Stuart" <stuart@0.0>
Subject: Re: Interested about number crunching in Ada
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:46:48 +0100
Date: 2007-08-20T09:46:48+01:00 [thread overview]
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"anon" <anon@anon.org> wrote in message
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> First, I was talking about the close source Libraries that the
> DOD CONTRACTED the DEC corporation to write in 77 - 78. Using
> its PDP series computer.
>
> Also, I was only talking about before Ada 83 the previous
> non-commerical versions. The first complete commercial Ada language
> was in 83 but DEC had developed the Jean Ichbiah design a long time
> before 83. And in 83 companies such as IBM, SUN, and even CII
> Honeywell Bull had to pay DEC for the source code of those close
> source code libraries. The library source code will still be under
> DEC control or its owners until around 2050.
>
> Ada was originally designed by a team led by Jean Ichbiah of CII
> Honeywell Bull under contract to the US DOD in 77. But another DOD
> department contract DEC to write the first Ada compiler in 77 - 78.
> Some 5 to 6 years before Ada 83.
This [the bit about DEC] seems to have been totally overlooked in the
'history' recorded at the AdaPower web-site. There the early development of
an Ada 'compiler' is associated with New York University (NYU) and the
Ada/Ed model (c1980).
Do you have any references for the role of DEC? I am also unclear about
just what these 'libraries' actually are; could you elaborate some more
please? There seems to be a scarcity of information about this - even on
the HP web-site (which still provides the supporting documentation for the
DEC Ada product).
[This includes their annotated Ada Language Reference Manual, which seems
to be one of the few available electronic versions of the old Ada83
standard.]
> As for the 'MIL-STD-1815' spec was created at the end of 1980.
> But the design and first full language compiler was created in
> 77 - 78 more than two years before. So the 'MIL-STD-1815' was
> not the first word only the first publish word.
That is true (and I don't think I claimed otherwise); the main history of
Ada is quite readily available - this includes the roles of the
STRAWMAN-STEELMAN documents, the four competing development teams Green,
Red, Blue & Yellow. All these documents were published for review. (I
think it is possible to find a commentary on Green by Dijkstra online).
--
Stuart
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Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-16 3:42 Interested about number crunching in Ada holst
2007-08-16 6:43 ` Nasser Abbasi
2007-08-16 9:16 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-08-17 9:43 ` Jerry
2007-08-16 11:17 ` anon
2007-08-16 18:59 ` Gautier
2007-08-17 4:44 ` anon
2007-08-17 7:24 ` Gautier
2007-08-17 23:42 ` anon
2007-08-18 11:22 ` Gautier
2007-08-18 11:40 ` Markus E.L. 2
2007-08-20 22:31 ` To Markus anon
2007-08-17 8:23 ` Interested about number crunching in Ada Markus E.L. 2
2007-08-17 9:01 ` Stuart
2007-08-17 9:39 ` Martin Krischik
2007-08-18 0:47 ` anon
2007-08-18 11:58 ` Markus E.L. 2
2007-08-19 6:43 ` anon
2007-08-19 16:14 ` Markus E.L. 2
2007-08-19 16:23 ` Markus E.L. 2
2007-08-20 8:46 ` Stuart [this message]
2007-08-21 1:06 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-08-21 1:28 ` Gary Scott
2007-08-21 8:14 ` History of Ada - was " Stuart
2007-08-22 7:13 ` anon
2007-08-23 11:24 ` Stuart
2007-08-23 21:51 ` Gautier
2007-08-24 13:04 ` History of Ada - and about the NYU DOS version anon
2007-08-24 16:25 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-08-25 11:49 ` History of Ada - to answer your question anon
2007-11-02 13:51 ` History of Ada - and about the NYU DOS version adaworks
2007-08-17 1:24 ` Interested about number crunching in Ada Gary Scott
2007-08-16 22:55 ` Jerry
2007-08-17 9:21 ` Nasser Abbasi
2007-08-17 9:52 ` Jerry
2007-08-17 14:35 ` Gautier
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