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From: "Stuart" <stuart@0.0>
Subject: Re: Interested about number crunching in Ada
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:46:48 +0100
Date: 2007-08-20T09:46:48+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46c9516a$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Qkrxi.438601$p47.325792@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net

"anon" <anon@anon.org> wrote in message 
news:Qkrxi.438601$p47.325792@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> First, I was talking about the close source Libraries that the
> DOD CONTRACTED the DEC corporation to write in 77 - 78. Using
> its PDP series computer.
>
> Also, I was only talking about before Ada 83 the previous
> non-commerical versions. The first complete commercial Ada language
> was in 83 but DEC had developed the Jean Ichbiah design a long time
> before 83. And in 83 companies such as IBM, SUN, and even CII
> Honeywell Bull  had to pay DEC for the source code of those close
> source code libraries. The library source code will still be under
> DEC control or its owners until around 2050.
>
> Ada was originally designed by a team led by Jean Ichbiah of CII
> Honeywell Bull under contract to the US DOD in 77. But another DOD
> department contract DEC to write the first Ada compiler in 77 - 78.
> Some 5 to 6 years before Ada 83.

This [the bit about DEC] seems to have been totally overlooked in the 
'history' recorded at the AdaPower web-site.  There the early development of 
an Ada 'compiler' is associated with New York University (NYU) and the 
Ada/Ed model (c1980).

Do you have any references for the role of DEC?  I am also unclear about 
just what these 'libraries' actually are; could you elaborate some more 
please?  There seems to be a scarcity of information about this - even on 
the HP web-site (which still provides the supporting documentation for the 
DEC Ada product).

  [This includes their annotated Ada Language Reference Manual, which seems
   to be one of the few available electronic versions of the old Ada83 
standard.]

> As for the 'MIL-STD-1815' spec was created at the end of 1980.
> But the design and first full language compiler was created in
> 77 - 78 more than two years before. So the 'MIL-STD-1815' was
> not the first word only the first publish word.

That is true (and I don't think I claimed otherwise); the main history of 
Ada is quite readily available - this includes the roles of the 
STRAWMAN-STEELMAN documents, the four competing development teams Green, 
Red, Blue & Yellow.  All these documents were published for review.  (I 
think it is possible to find a commentary on Green by Dijkstra online).

-- 
Stuart 





  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-20  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-16  3:42 Interested about number crunching in Ada holst
2007-08-16  6:43 ` Nasser Abbasi
2007-08-16  9:16   ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-08-17  9:43   ` Jerry
2007-08-16 11:17 ` anon
2007-08-16 18:59   ` Gautier
2007-08-17  4:44     ` anon
2007-08-17  7:24       ` Gautier
2007-08-17 23:42         ` anon
2007-08-18 11:22           ` Gautier
2007-08-18 11:40           ` Markus E.L. 2
2007-08-20 22:31             ` To Markus anon
2007-08-17  8:23       ` Interested about number crunching in Ada Markus E.L. 2
2007-08-17  9:01       ` Stuart
2007-08-17  9:39         ` Martin Krischik
2007-08-18  0:47         ` anon
2007-08-18 11:58           ` Markus E.L. 2
2007-08-19  6:43             ` anon
2007-08-19 16:14               ` Markus E.L. 2
2007-08-19 16:23               ` Markus E.L. 2
2007-08-20  8:46           ` Stuart [this message]
2007-08-21  1:06             ` Randy Brukardt
2007-08-21  1:28             ` Gary Scott
2007-08-21  8:14               ` History of Ada - was " Stuart
2007-08-22  7:13                 ` anon
2007-08-23 11:24                   ` Stuart
2007-08-23 21:51                     ` Gautier
2007-08-24 13:04                       ` History of Ada - and about the NYU DOS version anon
2007-08-24 16:25                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-08-25 11:49                           ` History of Ada - to answer your question anon
2007-11-02 13:51                         ` History of Ada - and about the NYU DOS version adaworks
2007-08-17  1:24   ` Interested about number crunching in Ada Gary Scott
2007-08-16 22:55 ` Jerry
2007-08-17  9:21 ` Nasser Abbasi
2007-08-17  9:52   ` Jerry
2007-08-17 14:35     ` Gautier
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