* TIOBE Programming Community Index
@ 2007-03-12 9:27 Martin Krischik
2007-03-12 9:43 ` Gautier
2007-03-12 16:22 ` jtg
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From: Martin Krischik @ 2007-03-12 9:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hello,
You know I am quite critical of the index [1] - Still it is widely used
so I always have look at it.
This month a trend which I have observed the last few month has become
even more apparent: The languages occupying the TOP-5 have all lost
ground (while maintaining there relative position) - with place 6 being
unchanged. On the other end all but one language in position 7 to 20
have gained ground (with relative positions scrambled).
It might be wishfull thinking but could "Everybody programs in language
X - so we need to program in X as well" finally come to an end?
Ada itself is on 17 for several month now but last year we had a better
position a place 14. We also gained 0.06% but that was not enough to
keep our position [2].
At this time I like to remind you all that only web-pages containing the
magic term "Ada programming" will be counted. We would not be the first
to hack the index by making sure that *every* relevant page *also* has
the magic term. Or how do you think Ruby [3] and D [4] made there sudden
steep accent? But I don't consider it cheating as long as the page
really is about the language in question.
Martin
[1] http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm
[2] http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index/Ada.html
[3] http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index/Ruby.html
[4] http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index/D.html
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* Re: TIOBE Programming Community Index
2007-03-12 9:27 TIOBE Programming Community Index Martin Krischik
@ 2007-03-12 9:43 ` Gautier
2007-03-12 13:46 ` Martin Krischik
2007-03-12 16:22 ` jtg
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From: Gautier @ 2007-03-12 9:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
Martin Krischik:
> At this time I like to remind you all that only web-pages containing the
> magic term "Ada programming" will be counted. We would not be the first
> to hack the index by making sure that *every* relevant page *also* has
> the magic term. Or how do you think Ruby [3] and D [4] made there sudden
> steep accent? But I don't consider it cheating as long as the page
> really is about the language in question.
Probably it would be biasing against the language L (whatever) if nobody
hacked the index for that language...
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* Re: TIOBE Programming Community Index
2007-03-12 9:43 ` Gautier
@ 2007-03-12 13:46 ` Martin Krischik
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From: Martin Krischik @ 2007-03-12 13:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
Gautier schrieb:
>> At this time I like to remind you all that only web-pages containing
>> the magic term "Ada programming" will be counted. We would not be the
>> first to hack the index by making sure that *every* relevant page
>> *also* has the magic term. Or how do you think Ruby [3] and D [4] made
>> there sudden steep accent? But I don't consider it cheating as long as
>> the page really is about the language in question.
>
> Probably it would be biasing against the language L (whatever) if nobody
> hacked the index for that language...
The Index is about *current* popularity and if no advocate for L is
there to hack the index then L is not popular. Might be sad news for L
but that's the way it is.
And this is true for L=Ada as well, hence my reminder.
Note that even Tiobe once mentioned a language community which had a
plan to increase there ranking.
Martin
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* Re: TIOBE Programming Community Index
2007-03-12 9:27 TIOBE Programming Community Index Martin Krischik
2007-03-12 9:43 ` Gautier
@ 2007-03-12 16:22 ` jtg
2007-03-12 17:10 ` Martin Krischik
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From: jtg @ 2007-03-12 16:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
Martin Krischik wrote:
> Or how do you think Ruby [3] and D [4] made there sudden
> steep accent?
According to my favourite popularity index (based on job offers), Ruby
is indeed on the rise:
http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/ruby.do
http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/contracts/uk/ruby.do
But it seems they don't include D in their statistics, although they
track thousands of IT keywords.
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* Re: TIOBE Programming Community Index
2007-03-12 16:22 ` jtg
@ 2007-03-12 17:10 ` Martin Krischik
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From: Martin Krischik @ 2007-03-12 17:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
jtg wrote:
> Martin Krischik wrote:
>
>> Or how do you think Ruby [3] and D [4] made there sudden
>> steep accent?
>
> According to my favourite popularity index (based on job offers), Ruby
> is indeed on the rise:
> http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/ruby.do
> http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/contracts/uk/ruby.do
> But it seems they don't include D in their statistics, although they
> track thousands of IT keywords.
Sure Ruby is on the rise I don't doubt that.
Martin
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mailto://krischik@users.sourceforge.net
Ada programming at: http://ada.krischik.com
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