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From: dennison@telepath.com (Ted Dennison)
Subject: Re: Announce: Grace project site operational
Date: 14 May 2002 08:18:07 -0700
Date: 2002-05-14T15:18:07+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4519e058.0205140718.3ddb1b2a@posting.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: abodqj$3qh$1@nh.pace.co.uk

"Marin David Condic" <dont.bother.mcondic.auntie.spam@[acm.org> wrote in message news:<abodqj$3qh$1@nh.pace.co.uk>...
> My point is that you have to give some careful thought to creating types and
> that doing it for every identifiable unique item is not usually smart.
> Decisions should be made with some sensitivity as to what the types
> represent and how much mixing together of the different types is needed. I'd

That's the biggie. If you try to make separate types for velocities
and accelerations, you will suddenly find that you also need separate
types for times and distances, and perhaps even Hz and mass and forces
and rotational orientations and velocitites and accelerations. Then
you'll find how annoying it is to have to do type conversions on every
factor in every formula. A more attractive option may be to write your
own math operators that return the correct type given their two input
types. But that causes an exponential growth in operators that you
have to create every time you add a new unit.

To do this kind of thing *right*, you'd really need a language that
relies on structural equivalence for types, and automaticly generates
the proper new type given the operator and the types of its operands.
In Ada, you just can't do that.

Generally, what I see Ada folk do is use *subtypes* for all this
stuff. That way ranges are checked, but formulas don't become a chore
(although you still have to be really careful with intermediate values
blowing out of subtype constraints).

-- 
T.E.D. 
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Thread overview: 158+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-08  2:38 Announce: Grace project site operational Ted Dennison
2002-05-08  2:48 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-05-08 12:46   ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-08 13:33     ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-09 19:54       ` Randy Brukardt
2002-05-09 20:22         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-10 14:59           ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-10 18:54           ` Randy Brukardt
2002-05-10 14:17       ` Larry Hazel
2002-05-10 14:46         ` David C. Hoos
2002-05-10 15:38         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-11 14:17           ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-11 16:58             ` martin.m.dowie
2002-05-11 18:55               ` William C. Brennan
2002-05-11 20:10               ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-12  8:53                 ` martin.m.dowie
2002-05-13 13:18               ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-13 13:07             ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-14 15:18               ` Ted Dennison [this message]
2002-05-14 15:45                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-15 19:56                   ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-16 13:44                   ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-14 17:02                 ` Martin Dowie
2002-05-15 14:57                   ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-15 15:31                     ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-16 21:57                       ` tmoran
2002-05-17  1:55                       ` tmoran
2002-05-17 13:12                         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-18  1:44                           ` tmoran
2002-05-15 15:54                     ` Martin Dowie
2002-05-15 17:33                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-05-15 17:04                         ` David C. Hoos
2002-05-15 22:59                     ` tmoran
2002-05-16 13:36                       ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-16 13:43                       ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-16 14:51                         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-17 15:34                         ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-20 13:47                           ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-21 14:23                             ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-21 17:24                               ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-21 17:52                                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-22 16:20                                   ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-28  8:22                                     ` Martin Dowie
2002-05-22 16:16                                 ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-16 11:06                     ` John English
2002-05-16 13:52                       ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-16 16:40                       ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-14 17:50                 ` tmoran
2002-05-14 18:07                   ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-14 18:12                     ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-14 18:52                       ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-15  8:17                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-15 18:30                           ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-16  9:16                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-16 19:42                               ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-17  8:35                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-20 17:08                                   ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-21  8:34                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-21 15:57                                       ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-22  7:48                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-22 11:40                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-05-22 15:05                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-22 16:14                                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-05-22 16:31                                       ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-23 11:40                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-15  8:44                         ` Martin Dowie
2002-05-15 18:15                           ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-15 18:39                             ` Darren New
2002-05-15 19:34                               ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-15 23:52                                 ` Darren New
2002-05-16  7:39                                   ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-16 15:35                                     ` Darren New
2002-05-16 17:55                                       ` Brian Rogoff
2002-05-16 13:35                                   ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-16 15:50                                     ` Darren New
2002-05-16 16:28                                       ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-17 15:14                                       ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-17 16:08                                         ` Darren New
2002-05-17 16:41                                           ` Fraser Wilson
2002-05-17 16:43                                           ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-17 16:24                                         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-17 15:03                                     ` Fraser Wilson
2002-05-17 15:27                                       ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-17 16:20                                         ` Fraser Wilson
2002-05-17 16:46                                           ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-18  6:14                                         ` Simon Wright
2002-05-17 15:44                                       ` Mark Biggar
2002-05-17 16:09                                         ` Fraser Wilson
2002-05-17 16:48                                           ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-17 21:11                                           ` Mark Biggar
2002-05-21  8:45                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-15 19:24                             ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-15 23:33                         ` tmoran
2002-05-16 13:48                           ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-16 14:39                             ` Martin Dowie
2002-05-14 19:10                       ` tmoran
2002-05-14 19:58                         ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-11 19:42           ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-05-11 20:16             ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-11 19:49           ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-05-13 15:44             ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-13 16:16               ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-13 17:10               ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-13 19:07                 ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-13 20:21                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-14 15:00                 ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-14 16:00                   ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-14 16:30                     ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-13 19:16               ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-05-13 19:19               ` Simon Wright
2002-05-11  1:23         ` Richard Riehle
2002-05-11 12:27           ` Marc A. Criley
2002-05-08 16:12     ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-08 16:31       ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-05-08 17:16         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-09  9:50           ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-05-09 13:32             ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-09 13:54             ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-09 14:23               ` Mário Amado Alves
2002-05-09 20:02                 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-05-09 20:44                   ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-10 13:06                     ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-10 16:23                       ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-10 18:57                         ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-10 18:58                     ` Randy Brukardt
2002-05-10  8:35                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-10  9:12                     ` GRACE web site (was Announce: Grace project site operationa)l David C. Hoos, Sr.
2002-05-10 14:33                       ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-10 16:17                         ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-13 14:07                           ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-13 16:04                             ` Darren New
2002-05-10 19:00                     ` Announce: Grace project site operational Randy Brukardt
2002-05-13  8:10                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-10 19:35                     ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-13  8:01                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-10 10:25                   ` Mário Amado Alves
2002-05-09 20:53               ` Simon Wright
2002-05-10  8:29               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-14 15:03                 ` John English
2002-05-15  8:34                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-15 10:38                     ` John English
2002-05-15 11:18                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-15 18:10                         ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-09 14:03           ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-09 15:38             ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-11 18:10         ` William C. Brennan
2002-05-08 22:00       ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-09  5:39         ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-09 14:21         ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-25 22:03           ` Robert I. Eachus
2002-05-08 14:32 ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-10 14:46   ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-10  7:47 ` fraser
2002-05-10 14:55   ` Ted Dennison
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-05-15  9:58 Grein, Christoph
2002-05-15 16:12 ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-15 11:32 Grein, Christoph
2002-05-15 13:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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