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From: Georg Bauhaus <bauhaus@futureapps.de>
Subject: Re: GNAT GPL Edition Maintenance and Upgrades
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:47:51 +0200
Date: 2005-10-25T22:47:42+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <435e99ee$0$23939$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ek697ga5.fsf@willow.rfc1149.net>

Samuel Tardieu wrote:
>>>>>>"Jeff" == Jeff Creem <jcreem@yahoo.com> writes:
> 
> 
> Jeff> No. Actually, what it shows is that a large number of developers
> Jeff> are not lawyers and don't understand software licensing so when
> Jeff> licensing terms are brought to the forefront, they get confused
> Jeff> and upset.
> 
> It also shows that AdaCore changed their mind and strategy
> completely. Here is an excerpt of a comp.lang.ada post from Robert
> Dewar (6 May 1999):
> 
> "In fact this is far from a theoretical situation, it is quite fine
>  legally for someone to distribute GPL'ed software for price $x,
>  possibly $0, and charge you a bundle for a separate license that
>  allows you to use the same software in a proprietary context. Indeed
>  it is my understanding (and I apologize in advance if this is an
>  incorrect understanding) that Cygwin is distributed under EXACTLY
>  this split model.
>  
>  One may argue over whether such a distribution model is a good idea
>  (at ACT we prefer a completely clean situation with no such dual
>  licensing, which is why we use the modified GPL for runtime stuff),
>  but it is absolutely 100% consistent with the GPL. Indeed I have
>  heard people argue that it is appropriate, because it gives full
>  access to those writing free software, and penalizes those writing
>  proprietary software, which to some people seems an appropriate
>  situation :-)"
> 
> Note the "at ACT we prefer a completely clean situation with no such dual
> licensing, which is why we use the modified GPL for runtime stuff".
> 
> Well, it looks like the "clean situation" is not the preferred one
> anymore.

Do you have any indication that AdaCore offers software under anything
but GPL or GMGPL? I don't, and I don't think you have. I think there
isn't any.

They use "the modified GPL for runtime stuff", see FSF GNAT. They have
made a new, *additional* offering by packaging tons of software for
"writing free software". They are even considering whether they can
offer terms and conditions for combining software that uses different
open source licenses. (According to the libre web site.)

What makes you think that "AdaCore changed their mind and strategy
completely?"

-- Georg 



  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-10-25 20:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-04 20:15 GNAT GPL Edition Maintenance and Upgrades Marc A. Criley
2005-10-05  8:04 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-10-05  8:58   ` michael bode
2005-10-05  9:39   ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-10-05 11:10     ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-10-05 12:50       ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-10-05 14:06         ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-10-05 14:40           ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-10-05 15:38           ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-10-05 16:22           ` Poul-Erik Andreasen
2005-10-05 18:28           ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-10-13 21:13           ` wojtek
2005-10-05 14:06       ` Alex R. Mosteo
2005-10-05 15:02         ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-10-05 21:25       ` Björn Persson
2005-10-06  1:18       ` David Trudgett
2005-10-06  7:18         ` David Trudgett
2005-10-06  8:03         ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-06  8:53         ` Hyman Rosen
2005-10-05 12:25   ` Marc A. Criley
2005-10-05 18:17   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-05 18:28     ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-10-06 18:20       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-06 19:20         ` Hyman Rosen
2005-10-06 22:27         ` Simon Wright
2005-10-07  5:25           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-07  5:54             ` Simon Wright
2005-10-07 18:43               ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-08  6:18                 ` Simon Wright
2005-10-07 11:57             ` Simon Clubley
2005-10-07 12:29               ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-07 12:50               ` Jeff Creem
2005-10-25 15:44                 ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-10-25 16:35                   ` Szymon Guz
2005-10-26 13:43                     ` Martin Krischik
2005-10-25 20:47                   ` Georg Bauhaus [this message]
2005-10-25 21:13                     ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-10-25 22:29                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-25 22:41                         ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-10-26 10:53                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-26 10:12                     ` Steve Whalen
2005-10-27 11:02                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-27 13:39                         ` Hyman Rosen
2005-10-27 14:05                           ` Szymon Guz
2005-10-27 14:25                             ` Pascal Obry
2005-10-27 15:50                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-27 16:59                               ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-10-27 17:09                                 ` Szymon Guz
2005-10-27 17:33                                   ` Pascal Obry
2005-10-27 19:18                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-27 19:49                                     ` Szymon Guz
2005-10-27 19:14                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-28  6:41                                   ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-10-30 14:17                                     ` Martin Krischik
2005-10-30 17:44                                       ` Jeff Creem
2005-10-30 19:53                                       ` Anh Vo
2005-10-28  5:10                         ` Steve Whalen
2005-10-28 11:18                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-28 11:47                             ` Maciej Sobczak
2005-10-28 12:34                               ` none
2005-10-28 12:35                               ` Emmanuel Briot
2005-10-28 12:35                               ` Martin Dowie
2005-10-28 14:14                                 ` Maciej Sobczak
2005-10-28 21:35                               ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-29 12:25                               ` Jeff Creem
2005-10-28  5:41                         ` Steve Whalen
2005-10-28  8:38                           ` Hyman Rosen
2005-10-28 10:20                             ` Niklas Holsti
2005-10-28 18:07                             ` Michael Bode
2005-10-31 14:58                             ` Marc A. Criley
2005-11-01 16:54                             ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-11-01 16:40                               ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-11-02 16:15                                 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-11-02 17:36                             ` Steffen Huber
2005-11-02 19:08                               ` Martin Dowie
2005-11-02 19:09                               ` Stefan Bellon
2005-10-28 18:52                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-11-02 21:14                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-10-07 23:11               ` Björn Persson
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