From: gregg <greggNOSPAMarbage@NOSPAMfree.WANTEDfr>
Subject: Re: Dr Dobbs dismisses Ada
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 00:15:28 +0200
Date: 2005-05-17T00:14:55+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42891b5f$0$31069$626a14ce@news.free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.117.1116165188.24457.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org>
Stephen Leake wrote:
> In the May 2005 issue of Dr Dobbs magazine, the "embedded space"
> column by Ed Nisley has a brutal dismissal of Ada:
>
> the entire cadre of Ada programmers is reaching retirement age
> with no replacements on tap.
He dismisses C/C++ as well.
Only to promote Java.
(it's a constant trend in Dr Dobb's lately, which I regret).
Argh, I think I'd be troubled to know that the plane I'm taking is
running Java in some way -- considering the amount of Java code I've had
to do.
Then again, Java is over-publicised. Not only for web applications, but
also for such critical and passion-heaving missions as space probes for
NASA.
I gather Ada (and especially 2006) really does need publicity too.
It is no time to keep being the one discreet, invisible thing making the
whole architecture stable and performant, in the background.
And let's wipe out that Ariane V failure, too.
Java gains terrain through hype.
When I was doing my BS, my teacher in Object Oriented Programming had a
moment of doubt because of Sun's erratic position (as this was before
the Microsoft dollar-settlement), and said "God, what will we be using
then ? We don't know."
I wish I had known Ada enough, back then, just to propose it.
Now it seems Java is on his way up again (even though Free Software
proponents are worried with Sun, a free implementation of Java does not
pose any problem to them).
And this include embedded thingies.
Shouldn't Ada developers be more prone to publicity ?
A sort of proselytism maybe (which I certainly dislike, but might be
necessary).
An "ada-powered" sticker on projects ? :-)
Trying to gain such territories as PDAs, cellular phones, and
everyday-devices, while claiming it ?
(my 2 cents of course, I'm hardly a beginner and certainly not a
decision-maker, not enough power to promote the language in the
institution I work for...)
But what about universities ? There is not much display and promotion
for Ada there, either ?
(Not to mention the very few projects in Ada on sourceforge and
freshmeat, for instance).
> It would help if other Dr Dobbs subscribers wrote in as well.
>
Where did you write to ?
(Shall we need a petition or something ?)
++
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Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-05-15 13:52 Dr Dobbs dismisses Ada Stephen Leake
2005-05-16 22:15 ` gregg [this message]
2005-05-16 22:27 ` Ed Falis
2005-05-16 23:01 ` spammenot
2005-05-16 23:07 ` David Emery
2005-05-17 0:22 ` Stephen Leake
2005-05-18 1:35 ` Larry Elmore
2005-05-20 13:31 ` cdm
2005-05-20 14:11 ` REH
2005-05-20 15:03 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-05-22 5:02 ` *-> That Guy Downstairs <-*
2005-05-17 0:18 ` Stephen Leake
2005-05-17 9:18 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2005-05-19 9:54 ` Bernd Specht
2005-05-21 22:09 ` Jerome Hugues
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