From: "Alex R. Mosteo" <devnull@mailinator.com>
Subject: Re: Problem with -gnatt
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:46:38 +0200
Date: 2004-10-19T17:46:38+02:00 [thread overview]
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In-Reply-To: <41752742$0$91006$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net>
Matthew Heaney wrote:
> "Alex R. Mosteo" <devnull@mailinator.com> wrote in message
> news:4174BF2F.8050306@mailinator.com...
>
>>Matthew Heaney wrote:
>>
>>>The Control_Type certainly *will* prevent such mistakes.
>>
>>I think he refers to *locking* and not *unlocking* which is, BTW, my
>>principal objection too.
>
>
> We're not talking generalities here. We're talking about a very specific
> piece of code. In that piece of code, you "remembered" to write the http
> logging feature as a protected action. If you can remember to do that, then
> surely you can "remember" to call a semaphore! What's the difference?
I coulnd't forget to write that as a protected procedure, since the data
reported is protected. If I must read it, I must do it inside the
protected procedure. If I unprotect that collection and start using
semaphores, nobody will warn me when I forget that a lock is to be
honored. Furthermore, a second reviewer/coder could easily not notice
that a lock is required around accesses to that data, or miss a comment
about it.
> My advice is to stop fighting the language...
And I see your point. It's simply that I don't see the big damage in
what I'm doing. It's an advice. My service isn't that long. The
collection will hold at worst a hundred elements.
Maybe I'm abusing the language, but surely not fighting against it
(IMO). It's not like I were making unchecked_conversions or taking
'Unrestricted_references all over the place and going the C way. It's
simply that I prefer a protected than a semaphore. Let's assume said
report costs a whole one second worst case. The user uses it a couple
times each hour. And let's assume there are a lot of protected, short
procedures, that also access that collection. Clearly start using
semaphores is going down the abstraction level path, and looking for
problems.
The bottom line is: I'm only degrading the performance abusing the
protected construction? Or could I get erroneous execution? If there's
nothing suggesting the later (which I don't believe or I wouldn't be
arguing about it), I find the cost worth it.
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Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-10-07 10:40 Javadoc-like for Ada Alex R. Mosteo
2004-10-07 11:46 ` stephane richard
2004-10-07 13:05 ` Marc A. Criley
2004-10-07 13:39 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2004-10-07 16:51 ` Problem with -gnatt (was Re: Javadoc-like for Ada) Alex R. Mosteo
2004-10-07 18:43 ` Marc A. Criley
2004-10-07 20:07 ` Björn Persson
2004-10-08 8:40 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2004-10-07 19:21 ` Problem with -gnatt Ludovic Brenta
2004-10-08 8:45 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2004-10-08 9:43 ` Martin Dowie
2004-10-08 13:09 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2004-10-09 14:17 ` Stephen Leake
2004-10-15 20:11 ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-18 7:59 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2004-10-08 16:52 ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-10-09 14:16 ` Stephen Leake
2004-10-09 14:45 ` Jeff C r e e.m
2004-10-10 12:25 ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-10-10 14:42 ` Stephen Leake
2004-10-15 20:03 ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-16 13:16 ` Stephen Leake
2004-10-15 20:00 ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-15 20:06 ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-18 7:59 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2004-10-18 16:48 ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-18 18:21 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2004-10-19 0:20 ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-19 2:41 ` Brian May
2004-10-19 3:08 ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-19 7:15 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2004-10-19 14:52 ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-19 15:46 ` Alex R. Mosteo [this message]
2004-10-19 20:03 ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-19 20:38 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2004-10-23 6:28 ` Brian May
2004-10-24 5:45 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-10-24 8:54 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-10-20 1:20 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-10-20 14:48 ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-19 7:36 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2004-10-20 5:19 ` Simon Wright
2004-10-20 7:59 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2004-10-11 22:53 ` Javadoc-like for Ada Lionel Draghi
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2004-10-20 1:34 Problem with -gnatt Stephen Leake
2004-10-20 6:37 ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-20 9:19 ` Pascal Obry
2004-10-20 13:22 Stephen Leake
2004-10-20 15:08 ` Pascal Obry
2004-10-20 16:23 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2004-10-20 16:38 ` Pascal Obry
2004-10-20 20:05 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2004-10-23 20:12 ` Niklas Holsti
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