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From: Marin David Condic <nobody@noplace.com>
Subject: Re: Porting ADA source
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 11:48:49 GMT
Date: 2004-07-24T11:48:49+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41024C9D.4040105@noplace.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: nMidnbsA54o6TJzc4p2dnA@comcast.com

Maybe its time to dredge out the "Tower Of Babel" analogy once again? 
Large efforts that involve lots of people and complicated decisions seem 
to be very hard to do and sometimes become impossible. They never go 
forward without errors. People always have their own styles and agendas 
they try to impose on the project. No two engineers are going to agree 
100% of the time on the relative merits of various design decisions. 
People will always misuse tools. Maybe that's a gas law or a "Y = MX + 
B" kind of aspect of the universe. Ada rather deliberately set itself 
the goal of trying to overcome the Tower Of Babel syndrome - maybe there 
is some hubris in there?

MDC

Robert I. Eachus wrote:
> 
> Pearls before swine, Marin, Pearls before swine.  It is a very tough 
> choice, but I think we need _one_ computer language where the habit and 
> the discourse is based on good engineering and software engineering 
> practice.
> 
> The real problem that we keep running into is an attitude towards 
> software that says it will be buggy, messy, and expensive to maintain, 
> and that this is a fact, not a result of current software development 
> practice.
> 
> I like it when the support group complains that they have insufficient 
> data on mean time to repair bugs in Ada software.  And personally, I am 
> not willing to give that up to increase the popularity of Ada.
> 


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  reply	other threads:[~2004-07-24 11:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-19  7:42 Porting ADA source Giacomo Polizzi
2004-07-19 11:04 ` Dale Stanbrough
2004-07-19 12:14   ` Marin David Condic
2004-07-19 18:46     ` tmoran
2004-07-20  0:44       ` Marin David Condic
2004-07-20 11:18       ` Peter C. Chapin
2004-07-20 11:41         ` Martin Dowie
2004-07-20 11:59           ` Marin David Condic
2004-07-20 13:02             ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-07-20 18:49             ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-07-20 22:51             ` Randy Brukardt
2004-07-21  0:35               ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-07-21 12:24                 ` Marin David Condic
2004-07-22 22:48                   ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-07-23 13:00                     ` Marin David Condic
2004-07-24  3:04                       ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-07-24 11:48                         ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2004-07-24 12:42                           ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-07-26 18:39                             ` Marin David Condic
2004-08-17  4:28               ` Ronald Price
2004-08-17 11:28                 ` Frank J. Lhota
2004-07-19 11:09 ` Adrian Knoth
2004-07-19 12:23 ` Porting Ada source Jacob Sparre Andersen
2004-07-19 18:05   ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2004-07-19 13:39 ` Porting ADA source Steve
2004-07-20  0:54   ` Marin David Condic
2004-07-19 18:05 ` Martin Dowie
2004-07-19 19:33   ` Wes Groleau
2004-07-19 20:03     ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-07-19 20:29       ` Wes Groleau
2004-07-20 16:13         ` Martin Krischik
2004-07-19 21:36     ` Martin Dowie
2004-07-20 12:14       ` Frank J. Lhota
2004-07-20 12:27         ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2004-07-20 13:13 ` Peter Amey
2004-07-21  6:20 ` Volkert
2004-07-31 16:04 ` Richard  Riehle
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