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From: "Vernon Brown" <vernonrbrown@inficad.com>
Subject: Re: 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 01:18:34 -0700
Date: 2004-06-03T01:18:34-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40bedede$0$97756$4c5eba9e@news.getnet.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: cf2c6063.0405300234.1663792@posting.google.com


"Rod Chapman" <rod.chapman@praxis-cs.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cf2c6063.0405300234.1663792@posting.google.com...
> Jeffrey Carter <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
news:<90Stc.15309$be.3117@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
> > Honeywell is advertising for a software engineer for 7E7 flight controls
> > electronics. The requirements are "Demonstrated experience using C/C++".
> > No mention of Ada.
>

I work for Honeywell ATS, but these comments are my own.
I don't think I'm letting out any secrets here...
  Some content for 7E7 will be done in C++, just
because it's too hard to attract a large number (100s) of engineers who
know Ada, or are willing to learn Ada and want to live in Phoenix (it's 86
degrees
right now at midnite!)

However, a majority of the code will be written/converted to Ada95, just
because we
have so much Ada83 code to leverage from.
I'm guessing the reason for only mentioning C/C++ in the ad is to get
sufficient response
so that prospective employee's can be interviewed and asked if they
would mind learning Ada instead of using C++.  In reality, flight control
software is very likely to all be Ada95.
Currently I don't believe C++ is being proposed for use in any DO178B Level
A
(safety critical) systems.


> I don't think we should read too much into this.  Two possibly useful
> pieces of information:
>
> 1) The Flight Control Electronics (FCE) is not the same thing as the
> "Core System" which was recently won by Smiths/Windriver/Ada Core.
>
The toolset supplied by Smiths contains no support for C++.  Honeywell
is on its own to add compatible C++ tools.

> 2) To the best of my knowledge, the contract for 7E7 FCE has not yet
> been awarded.  Anyone seen a press release?
>
Correct.

> I'm sure the development approach, languages and all that stuff will
> become far clearer once we know who's actually won the work!

Here's hoping it's Honeywell, 'cause then I'll get to teach a bunch more
engineers Ada!

Vernon





  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-03  8:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-30 10:34 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics Rod Chapman
2004-06-03  8:18 ` Vernon Brown [this message]
2004-06-03 10:45   ` Martin Krischik
2004-06-03 15:52   ` Richard  Riehle
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-05-29  1:51 Jeffrey Carter
2004-05-29 10:21 ` Per Dalgas Jakobsen
2004-05-29 12:58   ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-29 13:35     ` Ed Falis
2004-05-29 17:29       ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-29 17:40         ` Ed Falis
2004-05-29 18:44           ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-29 18:58             ` Ed Falis
2004-05-30  7:55             ` Pascal Obry
2004-05-30 11:43               ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-30 16:10                 ` Pascal Obry
2004-05-31 11:56               ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-29 17:48         ` Wes Groleau
2004-05-29 18:53           ` Marin David Condic
     [not found]             ` <n42jb05e8rk7bsrtf2ikesu9t0bsmbphji@4ax.com>
2004-05-31 12:04               ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-06 10:35               ` I R T
2004-05-30  7:50         ` Pascal Obry
2004-05-31 12:25           ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-02 16:45           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-02 17:48             ` Martin Dowie
2004-06-03 15:57               ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-03  0:09             ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-03  1:08               ` Ed Falis
2004-06-03 12:06                 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-03 12:33                   ` Ed Falis
2004-06-03 16:44                   ` Wes Groleau
2004-06-03 17:52                   ` tmoran
2004-06-04  1:13                   ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-06-04 11:27                     ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-04 18:38                       ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-06-06 21:37                     ` Leon Winslow
2004-06-07 11:08                       ` I R T
2004-06-08  2:22                         ` Richard  Riehle
2004-06-08  9:07                           ` I R T
2004-06-08 11:33                           ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-09 21:02                           ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-09 21:22                             ` Ed Falis
2004-06-09 23:30                               ` Richard  Riehle
2004-06-10  2:02                               ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-06-10  2:27                                 ` Ed Falis
2004-06-10 19:54                                   ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-06-07 11:19                       ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-07 22:24                         ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-06-08  1:11                           ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-08  2:35                           ` Richard  Riehle
2004-06-08  6:59                             ` tmoran
2004-06-08 19:44                               ` Wes Groleau
2004-06-09  1:32                             ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-06-09  6:23                               ` Richard  Riehle
2004-06-09  7:09                                 ` Martin Dowie
2004-06-10  1:41                                 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-06-10  6:13                                   ` Richard  Riehle
2004-06-11  2:03                                     ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-06-12  2:31                                     ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-15 16:07                                       ` Richard  Riehle
2004-06-09  7:54                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-06-09  6:31                         ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-09  9:43                           ` I R T
2004-06-09 15:28                           ` Jerry Petrey
2004-05-29 15:58     ` Preben Randhol
2004-05-29 17:45       ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-29 17:51         ` Ed Falis
2004-05-29 19:55       ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-05-30  7:57       ` Pascal Obry
2004-05-30 18:35         ` Richard  Riehle
2004-05-31 12:38           ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-04 12:56           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-05  8:49             ` Pascal Obry
2004-06-06 10:27 ` I R T
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