From: Marin David Condic <nobody@noplace.com>
Subject: Re: 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 11:19:37 GMT
Date: 2004-06-07T11:19:37+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40C44F24.8010902@noplace.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 40C38E7C.64564F@notes.udayton.edu
Cobol hit the world at a time when the only other programming language
choices were Fortran and assembler. For those who had work that looked
like business data processing, it was a no-brainer: There was nothing
else that even remotely met their needs. Cobol suffered from lots of
things like excessive verbosity and clumsy control structures, but it
was either that or go use Fortran or assembler. Once it got established,
there was no way to eradicate it.
Ada, OTOH tried to address the needs of embedded systems programmers and
missed the mark for a variety of reasons. Probably chief among them was
that embedded programmers already had something - C - which was cheap
and small and could be made to fit just about any processor - and was
available for just about any microprocessor. Ada was huge and cost a
fortune and couldn't be made to work for small microprocessors and was
not available for most targets. Given that people had choices and Ada
wasn't meeting their needs, mandate or not, they went elsewhere.
The moral of the story: Find out what the customer wants/needs before
you build a huge product and try to sell it to them.
MDC
Leon Winslow wrote:
>
>
> There is an irony here that most people might not appreciate. COBOL was
> the first language mandated by the federal government. I don't know if
> Ada was the second or there were one or more other languages in between
> these two.
>
> Some interesting questions might be: Why was one more widely used than
> the other. What did the government do differently with COBOL and Ada
> and what effect did it have?
>
> Lee Winslow
>
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Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-05-29 1:51 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics Jeffrey Carter
2004-05-29 10:21 ` Per Dalgas Jakobsen
2004-05-29 12:58 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-29 13:35 ` Ed Falis
2004-05-29 17:29 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-29 17:40 ` Ed Falis
2004-05-29 18:44 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-29 18:58 ` Ed Falis
2004-05-30 7:55 ` Pascal Obry
2004-05-30 11:43 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-30 16:10 ` Pascal Obry
2004-05-31 11:56 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-29 17:48 ` Wes Groleau
2004-05-29 18:53 ` Marin David Condic
[not found] ` <n42jb05e8rk7bsrtf2ikesu9t0bsmbphji@4ax.com>
2004-05-31 12:04 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-06 10:35 ` I R T
2004-05-30 7:50 ` Pascal Obry
2004-05-31 12:25 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-02 16:45 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-02 17:48 ` Martin Dowie
2004-06-03 15:57 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-03 0:09 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-03 1:08 ` Ed Falis
2004-06-03 12:06 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-03 12:33 ` Ed Falis
2004-06-03 16:44 ` Wes Groleau
2004-06-03 17:52 ` tmoran
2004-06-04 1:13 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-06-04 11:27 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-04 18:38 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-06-06 21:37 ` Leon Winslow
2004-06-07 11:08 ` I R T
2004-06-08 2:22 ` Richard Riehle
2004-06-08 9:07 ` I R T
2004-06-08 11:33 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-09 21:02 ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-09 21:22 ` Ed Falis
2004-06-09 23:30 ` Richard Riehle
2004-06-10 2:02 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-06-10 2:27 ` Ed Falis
2004-06-10 19:54 ` Jeffrey Carter
[not found] ` <28rfc01rhesdk2qt27krrr65nnk0n0kihc@4ax.com>
2004-06-12 3:01 ` non sequitur Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-11 16:51 ` 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics (COBOL Popularity) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-11 17:18 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-11 18:49 ` Richard Riehle
2004-06-11 19:07 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-11 20:39 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-12 11:16 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-06-11 21:05 ` Frank J. Lhota
2004-06-14 12:46 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-07 11:19 ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2004-06-07 22:24 ` 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-06-08 1:11 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-08 2:35 ` Richard Riehle
2004-06-08 6:59 ` tmoran
2004-06-08 19:44 ` Wes Groleau
2004-06-09 1:32 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-06-09 6:23 ` Richard Riehle
2004-06-09 7:09 ` Martin Dowie
2004-06-10 1:41 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-06-10 6:13 ` Richard Riehle
2004-06-11 2:03 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-06-12 2:31 ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-15 16:07 ` Richard Riehle
2004-06-09 7:54 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-06-09 6:31 ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-06-09 9:43 ` I R T
2004-06-09 15:28 ` Jerry Petrey
2004-05-29 15:58 ` Preben Randhol
2004-05-29 17:45 ` Marin David Condic
2004-05-29 17:51 ` Ed Falis
2004-05-29 19:55 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-05-30 7:57 ` Pascal Obry
2004-05-30 18:35 ` Richard Riehle
2004-05-31 12:38 ` Marin David Condic
2004-06-04 12:56 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-06-05 8:49 ` Pascal Obry
2004-06-06 10:27 ` I R T
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2004-05-30 10:34 Rod Chapman
2004-06-03 8:18 ` Vernon Brown
2004-06-03 10:45 ` Martin Krischik
2004-06-03 15:52 ` Richard Riehle
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