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From: Philippe Ribet <p.ribet@tele2.fr>
Subject: Re: OOP Language for OS Development
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:53:20 +0200
Date: 2004-04-28T21:53:20+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40900BB0.4040302@tele2.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ba03b545.0404231700.6b50bb6f@posting.google.com>

Brian_Heilig wrote:

> Eiffel Cons (related to OSes):
> There is no turnkey Eiffel compiler for you to use for operating
> systems. All the current compilers are system-oriented, that is, they
> generate systems, which for example have command-line arguments and
> garbage collectors. Unless I'm mistaken this is probably the show
> stopper.
Using SmartEiffel should not be a problem. -no_main option may help.
The garbage collector can be turned off. Then the memory job is limited 
to se_malloc/se_realloc.

> I'm pretty sure it is impossible to write an entire OS completely in
> Eiffel. Number one reason, Eiffel has no method for declaring
> interrupt handlers. The good news is that Eiffel integrates with other
> languages easily (C for example which has an interrupt keyword).
> If efficiency is your number one priority Eiffel may not be for you.
> SmartEiffel and ISE Eiffel generate very efficient code, but I don't
> think it meets the demands of a CPU scheduler, for example.
I did some testing on computationnal code (matix multiplication). Code 
generated by SmartEiffel had exactly the same performance as the same C 
program. But never forget, each time you need extreme performance or 
very specific instructions, you can use C code (inline or external 
function call). This mean you can use assembler too when you really need 
(context swith, hardware access).

-- 
Philippe Ribet



                          The README file said
               "Requires Windows 95, NT 4.0, or better."
                     So... I installed it on Linux!




  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-04-28 19:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-15  5:53 OOP Language for OS Development KingIshu
2004-04-15  8:02 ` Martin Krischik
2004-04-15 12:25 ` Ioannis Vranos
2004-04-15 12:49   ` Ioannis Vranos
2004-04-15 12:39 ` Thomas Gagné
2004-04-15 14:32 ` jeffc
2004-04-15 14:45 ` Luke Guest
2004-04-17 16:30 ` Ender Everett
2004-04-19  1:53 ` EventHelix.com
2004-04-19  7:25   ` Martin Krischik
2004-04-19  8:35   ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2004-04-19  9:16     ` Ioannis Vranos
2004-04-19 11:15       ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2004-04-19 11:32       ` Martin Krischik
2004-04-19 17:36       ` Christopher Benson-Manica
2004-04-19 11:09   ` Philippe Ribet
2004-04-22  7:34     ` Calum
2004-04-22 10:48       ` John English
2004-04-23  8:36       ` Philippe Ribet
2004-04-23  9:55         ` Calum
2004-04-23 14:30           ` Steven Wurster
2004-04-23 15:04             ` Hyman Rosen
2004-04-23 22:08               ` Brian_Heilig
2004-04-23 22:33                 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-04-24 12:53                   ` Robert C. Martin
2004-04-25  1:25                     ` Steven Wurster
2004-04-25 12:30                       ` Robert C. Martin
2004-04-24 19:58                   ` Anthony Weissenberger
2004-04-25  2:24                     ` Hyman Rosen
2004-04-24  0:01               ` Steven Wurster
2004-04-24 15:27             ` JKop
2004-04-24 21:41               ` Greg C
2004-04-24 22:17               ` Steven Wurster
2004-04-29 17:43               ` Brian_Heilig
2004-04-23 16:22           ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-04-23 16:45             ` Hyman Rosen
2004-04-23 20:13               ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-04-23 21:18                 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-04-24 10:33                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-04-25  2:27                     ` Hyman Rosen
2004-04-23 23:03               ` Brian_Heilig
2004-04-25  2:42                 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-05-04 18:37                   ` Dr Chaos
2004-05-05 11:58                   ` Ged
2004-05-05 12:28                     ` Thomas Gagné
2004-05-06  9:35                       ` Ged
2004-04-24  0:10               ` Steven Wurster
2004-04-25  2:37                 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-04-24  1:00 ` Brian_Heilig
2004-04-26  3:43   ` Berend de Boer
2004-04-26  4:17     ` Christopher Browne
2004-04-26 21:52       ` Berend de Boer
2004-05-04  4:14     ` Richard  Riehle
2004-05-04 21:15       ` Berend de Boer
2004-04-28 19:53   ` Philippe Ribet [this message]
2004-04-29  8:32     ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-04-30 17:48       ` Philippe Ribet
2004-04-29 17:39     ` Brian_Heilig
     [not found]       ` <1402879.WneVss6BD6@linux1.krischik.com>
     [not found]         ` <ba03b545.0404300503.376243c8@posting.google.com>
     [not found]           ` <c6tk6v$amm$1@news.BelWue.DE>
2004-04-30 13:46             ` Preben Randhol
2004-04-30 19:30             ` Steven Wurster
2004-04-24 22:09 ` Thomas Gagné
2004-04-25  2:17   ` Hyman Rosen
2004-04-25 16:31     ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-04-25 16:58     ` Isaac Gouy
2004-04-26  0:01       ` Cesar Rabak
2004-04-26  6:14         ` Isaac Gouy
2004-04-26  2:06       ` Thomas Gagné
2004-04-25 16:29   ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-04-26  4:17   ` Christopher Browne
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