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From: wjwinn@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Bill Winn)
Subject: Re: Academic CS Losers?
Date: 1995/04/21
Date: 1995-04-21T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3n8dju$k1p@kocrsv08.delcoelect.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3n5410$pv1@crl.crl.com

In article <3n5410$pv1@crl.crl.com>, pfanous@crl.com writes...
>: My opinion that lower division programming language should be done in
>: a done in a strongly typed imperitive object oriented language which
>: is very disiplined.   Examples: Ada9x, Modula3, Oberon2.  More
>I agree. This would make learning C++ much easier and would help the 
>novice programmer in adopting the object-oriented design paradigm early 
>so that they can develop good design habits.
>
If the teaching of the Object paradigm is important, I believe teaching 
Smalltalk does better job than any of the aforementioned languages.  
Smalltalk does not allow one to fall out of the Object paradigm; hybrid 
languages allow one to use the Structured or (in some cases) the Hacking 
paradigms.

I do, however, advocate the teaching of a strongly-typed language (e.g. 
Ada95) to students before unleashing C++ upon them.


Bill Winn
Software Engineer - Analysts International Corporation
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wjwinn@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com
wwinn@klingon.iupucs.iupui.edu

My views do not express the views of anyone except my alter-ego.





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Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1995-03-17  0:24 Should internet support software be written in Ada? Bill Brooks
1995-03-17  8:47 ` Anthony Shipman
1995-03-19 22:06 ` David Weller
1995-03-23 15:05   ` Theodore Dennison
1995-03-24 10:26     ` Fred J. McCall
1995-03-27  9:50       ` Robb Nebbe
1995-03-27 19:43         ` State machines and Goto's (was Re: Should internet support software be written in Ada?) Robert I. Eachus
1995-03-27 23:14           ` Arthur Evans Jr
1995-03-29  0:00           ` Dan
1995-04-01  0:00             ` Mike White
1995-04-04  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-06  0:00                 ` Theodore Dennison
1995-04-06  0:00                   ` Norman H. Cohen
1995-04-07  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-07  0:00                   ` Tucker Taft
1995-04-07  0:00                 ` Mike White
     [not found]                   ` <3ma7rt$smt@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com>
     [not found]                     ` <dewar.797514490@gnat>
     [not found]                       ` <3meunj$66u@felix.seas.gwu.edu>
1995-04-20  0:00                         ` CS teachers who can't code their way outta a paper bag Richard A. O'Keefe
1995-03-27 14:24       ` Should internet support software be written in Ada? Theodore Dennison
1995-03-28  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1995-03-28  9:32         ` Fred J. McCall
1995-03-29  0:00           ` Theodore Dennison
1995-03-29  0:00   ` Robert I. Eachus
1995-03-31  0:00     ` Theodore Dennison
1995-04-05  0:00   ` Wes Groleau
1995-04-07  0:00   ` State machines and Goto's (was Re: Should internet support software be written in Ada?) Wes Groleau
1995-04-07  0:00     ` Robert Firth
     [not found]       ` <D6qyv0.6Jv@nntpa.cb.att.com>
1995-04-19  0:00         ` Fergus Henderson
1995-04-19  0:00           ` Fred J. McCall
1995-04-19  0:00             ` George Haddad
1995-04-20  0:00             ` Mark A Biggar
1995-04-20  0:00             ` Bill Winn
1995-04-20  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-20  0:00             ` State machines and Goto's (was Re: Sho Brian Hanson
1995-03-22 23:08 ` Should internet support software be written in Ada? Keith Thompson
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     [not found]     ` <3mh75i$8eu@rational.rational.com>
     [not found]       ` <3mjihr$iqq@felix.seas.gwu.edu>
     [not found]         ` <3mp20f$80t@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com>
1995-04-20  0:00           ` Academic CS Losers? Phillip Fanous
1995-04-21  0:00             ` Bill Winn [this message]
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     [not found]     ` <3n1fsv$lgd@butch.lmsc.lockheed.com>
1995-04-20  0:00       ` Problems with proofs Robin Rowe
1995-04-20  0:00         ` Garlington KE
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1995-04-19  0:00       ` Brian Harvey
1995-04-19  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-20  0:00       ` Robin Rowe
1995-04-20  0:00       ` Robin Rowe
1995-04-20  0:00         ` Steve Tate
1995-04-20  0:00           ` Apology to Steve Robin Rowe
1995-04-20  0:00         ` Problems with proofs Robert Dewar
1995-04-21  0:00           ` Robin Rowe
1995-04-21  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-20  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-21  0:00         ` Larry Kahn
     [not found] ` <dewar.798093453@gnat>
1995-04-20  0:00   ` What good is halting prob? Max Hailperin
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     [not found]       ` <cppD792GC.1uI@netcom.com>
1995-04-20  0:00         ` Teaching OO/C++ Philip Machanick
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1995-04-18  0:00         ` What good is halting prob? Jay M Martin
1995-04-19  0:00           ` Steve Tate
1995-04-20  0:00             ` Jay M Martin
1995-04-21  0:00               ` Steve Tate
1995-04-21  0:00             ` Ray Toal
     [not found]         ` <cppD7880n.32B@netcom.com>
1995-04-19  0:00           ` Randolph Crawford
1995-04-19  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-20  0:00             ` Robin Rowe
1995-04-20  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-20  0:00                 ` Robin Rowe
1995-04-21  0:00                   ` Brian Hanson
1995-04-21  0:00           ` sxc
     [not found]       ` <dewar.798172270@gnat>
     [not found]         ` <cppD786FM.1u9@netcom.com>
     [not found]           ` <dewar.798207364@gnat>
     [not found]             ` <3n0ka7$b57@hermes.unt.edu>
     [not found]               ` <dewar.798232482@gnat>
1995-04-19  0:00                 ` Mark A Biggar
1995-04-19  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-19  0:00                   ` Steve Tate
     [not found]             ` <cppD78xMv.49w@netcom.com>
1995-04-19  0:00               ` Robb Nebbe
1995-04-19  0:00           ` Mark A Biggar
1995-04-19  0:00             ` Richard Ladd Kirkham
1995-04-19  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-20  0:00                 ` Richard Ladd Kirkham
1995-04-20  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-21  0:00               ` Mark A Biggar
1995-04-21  0:00       ` Robert I. Eachus
1995-04-21  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
     [not found] <3mo2j0$8e8@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com>
1995-04-20  0:00 ` Academic CS Losers? Richard A. O'Keefe
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