From: Curtis Bass <cbass%intmeds1.utmb@mhost.utmb.edu>
Subject: Re: C++ not OOP? (Was: Language Efficiency
Date: 1995/04/20
Date: 1995-04-20T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3n5oup$g2s@atlantis.utmb.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3n43p0$ehs@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM
dweller@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (David Weller) wrote:
>
> In article <3n3o9c$cud@atlantis.utmb.edu>,
> Curtis Bass <cbass%intmeds1.utmb@mhost.utmb.edu> wrote:
> >If I can write a procedure that is NOT attached to an object,
> >then I am NOT using a "PURE" OOPL.
> >
> Curtis, please cite the references you have used to gain this silly
> notion.
#1. The fact that you dismiss this "notion" as "silly" proves
to me that your mind is made up, and that you are not
willing to listen, learn, or expand your horizons in any
way. If you wish to remain ignorant, then, obviously, I
cannot prevent it.
#2. I know what "pure" means, and I know what "object-oriented"
means. Also, I know what "paradigm," "structured," and
"model" mean. Ergo, I can state what "pure object-oriented
programming language" means, based on the definitional
building-blocks I already have at my disposal.
#3. I have seen the term "pure" used to describe languages
such as Actor, Smalltalk, and Eiffel in printed articles
in widely available trade magazines. However, I have no
intention of rummaging through all of my Dr. Dobbs and
Computer Language back issues in order to pacify you. I
don't remember which article or column, out of the hundreds
that are in those magazines, actually contain the reference,
nor do I care. I know what I know. If you decide to reject
it, then I couldn't care less. There are others in this
newsgroup who think that the distinction between "pure"
and "impure" OOPL's is minor. I do not. Who is right?
We ALL are. Or, in other words, Who Cares?
Someone asked, "Why is C++ an 'impure' OOPL?" I simply
answered his question. If you have problems with this,
then I am sorry. Really.
#4. What I WILL do is refer you to Grady Booch's FIRST edition
of "Object-Oriented Design with Applications," appendix A2,
page 474. I will NOT reprint the relevant text. Go look it
up yourself.
Curtis Bass
Software Systems Specialist II
University of Texas Medical Branch
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1995-04-02 0:00 Language Efficiency Robert C. Bethel
1995-04-04 0:00 ` Bob Kitzberger
1995-04-05 0:00 ` Mike Wilson
1995-04-05 0:00 ` David Weller
1995-04-05 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1995-04-04 0:00 ` Harold P Zbiegien
1995-04-04 0:00 ` Kennel
1995-04-05 0:00 ` Ray Toal
1995-04-07 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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[not found] ` <D6ss6z.Gvw@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca>
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1995-04-19 0:00 ` Adam Beneschan
1995-04-19 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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1995-04-19 0:00 ` Multiple dispatch (was Re: C++ not OOP?) Kenneth Almquist
1995-04-19 0:00 ` C++ not OOP? (Was: Language Efficiency Harley Davis
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1995-04-19 0:00 ` Paul Graham
1995-04-19 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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1995-04-19 0:00 ` Multiple dispatch (was Re: C++ not OOP?) Fernando Mato Mira
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1995-04-21 0:00 ` C++ not OOP? (Was: Language Efficiency James McKim
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1995-04-21 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Curtis Bass
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[not found] ` <3muaif$46u@atlantis.utmb.edu>
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Curtis Bass
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-22 0:00 ` Robert Martin
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1995-04-19 0:00 ` Fernando Mato Mira
1995-04-19 0:00 ` Curtis Bass
1995-04-19 0:00 ` David Weller
1995-04-20 0:00 ` Curtis Bass [this message]
1995-04-20 0:00 ` David Weller
1995-04-20 0:00 ` Curtis Bass
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Ed Osinski
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Fernando Mato Mira
1995-04-20 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Curtis Bass
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1995-04-20 0:00 ` Matt Austern
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Matt Austern
1995-04-22 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1995-04-22 0:00 ` OOAD courses by Object Mentor cjames
1995-04-22 0:00 ` C++ not OOP? (Was: Language Efficiency David Weller
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Curtis Bass
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Ed Osinski
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Curtis Bass
1995-04-19 0:00 ` Multiple dispatch (was Re: C++ not OOP?) Robert I. Eachus
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1995-04-20 0:00 ` C++ not OOP? (Was: Language Efficiency ron house
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Curtis Bass
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Multiple dispatch (was Re: C++ not OOP?) Robert I. Eachus
1995-04-21 0:00 ` C++ not OOP? (Was: Language Efficiency Norman H. Cohen
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Fernando Mato Mira
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Erik Naggum
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1995-04-21 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1995-04-22 0:00 ` Kenneth Almquist
1995-04-19 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1995-04-19 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-20 0:00 ` Kennel
1995-04-19 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-04 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1995-04-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-20 0:00 ` Matt Austern
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1995-04-05 0:00 ` Lawrence Free/ A.F. Software Services
1995-04-05 0:00 ` Mitch Gart
1995-04-06 0:00 ` Ken Leidner
1995-04-06 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
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1995-04-20 0:00 C++ not OOP? (Was: " Wes Groleau
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