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From: jmartin@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (Jay M Martin)
Subject: Re: No top schools use Ada
Date: 1995/04/18
Date: 1995-04-18T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3n2beh$eb9@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: NEWTNews.19974.798127420.cjames@cec-services-01

> Kevin V. Sobilo
> Sorry, but can you substantiate the fact that these are "TOP" schools???
> MIT, obviously has a reputation for RESEARCH, but I don't know of
> any strength in Software Engineering which is the center of this
> issue.

 1 Scheme    Massachusetts Institute of Technology
 1 C         Stanford University 
 1 Scheme    University of California, Berkeley
 1 C++       Carnegie Mellon University  (Corrected)
 5 Pascal    Cornell
 6 Scheme    University of Illinois,Urb
 7 C         University of Washington
 8 Pascal    University of Texas, Austin
 8 Pascal    University of Wisconsin, Madison (2/3-term Pascal, 1/3-term C)

Top 9 CS departments ranked in last months US News and World Report.

>Colin James:
>I don't see academics from Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, MIT, 
>CalTech, Rice, Monash University (AU), Dartmouth College, or any school
>I omit from ignorance which is ACTIVELY engaged here in any fruitful 
>discussions whatsoever.
>Could it be that this news group is either trivial or that those academics 
>are too busy doing things that matter to even care ?  ...
>This newgroup is not worthy of any outside respect, and, by in large, 
>it shows it.  By contrast, read other comp.lang newsgroups where the
>discussion actually proves something. 

What comp.* newsgroups has all the MIT/Stanford/CMU/Berkeley
professors contributing, I want to go read it!!!  Sure comp.lang.C++
has Stroustrup, but he is a "wild and crazy guy" because he is only
one of the few eminent Computer Scientists who lowers himself down to
actually press the electronic flesh with the masses (and we benefit
and are grateful for it!).   I just don't see many prominent
academics wasting their time with internet news.  Heh, posting
news and 50 cents will get you a cup of coffee! 

> too busy doing things that matter to care?
Well, more like doing theoretical masturbation, but thats close enough.
They got lots of other stuff to do (in order Letterman style ) besides
posting in comp.lang.ada:

1000 : Thinking of how Computer Science could actually benefit 
       industry/mankind.
  ...
   6 : Doing Research
   5 : Teaching undergrad students
   4 : Hand-holding Grad Students
   3 : Getting that paper out before the deadline.
   2 : Milking those Ol funding sources and managing that money.

 And the #1 time consumer for professors is!:

   1 : Machiavellian departmental politics!


Personally, I think this newsgroup (comp.lang.ada) is pretty good.   

Jay




  parent reply	other threads:[~1995-04-18  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <3mq0jd$r10@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com>
1995-04-19  0:00 ` No top schools use Ada Kenneth Almquist
1995-04-18  0:00   ` cjames
1995-04-19  0:00     ` Kenneth Almquist
     [not found] ` <3n10sv$i97@gopher.cs.uofs.edu>
1995-04-19  0:00   ` Fernando Mato Mira
     [not found] ` <D759Az.GHM@cs.fredonia.edu>
     [not found]   ` <NEWTNews.19974.798127420.cjames@cec-services-01>
1995-04-18  0:00     ` Jay M Martin [this message]
1995-04-20  0:00     ` Vladimir Vukicevic
1995-04-20  0:00     ` Norman H. Cohen
1995-04-20  0:00       ` cjames
1995-04-19  0:00   ` Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]
1995-04-19  0:00   ` Ian S Nelson
1995-04-19  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-20  0:00       ` Brian Hanson
1995-04-20  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-20  0:00       ` First Language Debate etc Deepak Kumar
1995-04-20  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-21  0:00           ` Deepak Kumar
1995-04-19  0:00     ` No top schools use Ada Robert Dewar
1995-04-22  0:00   ` Chris Morgan
1995-04-20  0:00 ` Which first-course languages? (was: What schools use Eiffel (was: No top schools use Ada)) ? Spencer Allain
1995-04-20  0:00   ` Scott Wheeler
1995-04-21  0:00   ` Neil Wilson
     [not found] ` <NEWTNews.27781.798049024.ir001168@cec-services-01>
     [not found]   ` <3mrg2c$onn@disunms.epfl.ch>
     [not found]     ` <tomkwongD76x5L.AED@netcom.com>
1995-04-19  0:00       ` Theodore Dennison
1995-04-19  0:00         ` Theodore Dennison
1995-04-19  0:00           ` Scott Wheeler
1995-04-20  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-21  0:00               ` Jeremiah S Patterson
1995-04-21  0:00           ` Scott Wheeler
1995-04-19  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-20  0:00         ` Robert Johnson
1995-04-20  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-20  0:00         ` Which first-course languages? (was: What schools use Eiffel (was Geert Bosch
1995-04-21  0:00         ` Which first-course languages? (was: What schools use Eiffel (was: No top schools use Ada)) ? Des Kenny
1995-04-21  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-20  0:00   ` What schools use Eiffel ? Igor Chudov
1995-04-21  0:00 ` Madison Cloutier
     [not found] <9504200153.AA25668@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU>
1995-04-21  0:00 ` No top schools use Ada Ian S Nelson
1995-04-21  0:00   ` Jay M Martin
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