icelandic eth thorn

icelandic eth thorn

[Peter Hermann]

icelandic question:
For a simple sorting feature running under both Ada83 and Ada95
I am mapping the latin-1 character code for
a" (a with umlaut) (diaeresis) german-ae
as well as a` a with grave accent, a' a with acute accent,
a^ a with circumflex, a~ a with tilde, ao a with ring, ae ae diphtong
to the code of character a.
Correspondingly I map german_sharp_s to s, or n_tilde to n.
For my application this is the best fit for my sorting purposes.

However, I do not know how whether the characters 
icelandic_eth and icelandic_thorn are usually sorted into
the lower set of ascii-characters in a typical icelandic 
telephone book or whether they are characters entirely in their 
own right.

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Re: icelandic eth thorn

[Tore Joergensen]

Peter Hermann (ucaa2385@iris2.csv.ica.uni-stuttgart.de) wrote:

: icelandic question:
: For a simple sorting feature running under both Ada83 and Ada95
: I am mapping the latin-1 character code for
: a" (a with umlaut) (diaeresis) german-ae
: as well as a` a with grave accent, a' a with acute accent,
: a^ a with circumflex, a~ a with tilde, ao a with ring, ae ae diphtong
: to the code of character a.
: Correspondingly I map german_sharp_s to s, or n_tilde to n.
: For my application this is the best fit for my sorting purposes.

I don't know if you are interested, but in Norway we put the
ae, o slash, and a ring at the end of the alphabet (after z) in
that order. They are characters, not some kind of notation. Guess
you know since you are writing from Germany :-)
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Re: icelandic eth thorn

[Pall Freyr Jonsson]

In <3iuu5p$15qe@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> ucaa2385@iris2.csv.ica.uni-stuttgart.de (Peter Hermann) writes:


>icelandic question:
>For a simple sorting feature running under both Ada83 and Ada95
>I am mapping the latin-1 character code for
>a" (a with umlaut) (diaeresis) german-ae
>as well as a` a with grave accent, a' a with acute accent,
>a^ a with circumflex, a~ a with tilde, ao a with ring, ae ae diphtong
>to the code of character a.
>Correspondingly I map german_sharp_s to s, or n_tilde to n.
>For my application this is the best fit for my sorting purposes.

>However, I do not know how whether the characters 
>icelandic_eth and icelandic_thorn are usually sorted into
>the lower set of ascii-characters in a typical icelandic 
>telephone book or whether they are characters entirely in their 
>own right.

The Icelandic eth is usually  mapped to d.  In Icelandic there is no
word beginning with eth so it has never been a problem and we do not
have a seperate "eth-division" in the phone directory :).  The Icelandic thorn
is an indipendent character and comes after Z in the Icelandic alphabet.

Pall Freyr Jonsson
pfj@rhi.hi.is

Re: icelandic eth thorn

[Debora Weber-Wulff]

Peter Hermann (ucaa2385@iris2.csv.ica.uni-stuttgart.de) wrote:

: icelandic question:
: For a simple sorting feature running under both Ada83 and Ada95
: I am mapping the latin-1 character code for
: a" (a with umlaut) (diaeresis) german-ae
: as well as a` a with grave accent, a' a with acute accent,
: a^ a with circumflex, a~ a with tilde, ao a with ring, ae ae diphtong
: to the code of character a.
: Correspondingly I map german_sharp_s to s, or n_tilde to n.
: For my application this is the best fit for my sorting purposes.

: However, I do not know how whether the characters 
: icelandic_eth and icelandic_thorn are usually sorted into
: the lower set of ascii-characters in a typical icelandic 
: telephone book or whether they are characters entirely in their 
: own right.

Now that's a "thorn"y problem ;-) as not all dictionaries sort the
same way. Some sort a' and a the same, many sort first the a and then
all the a' letters. The "funny stuff" like thorn  and o-umlaut
get sorted after z. There's an Icelandic-English dictionary that
apparently just did a "SELECT ALL WORDS FROM A* to Z*" and left out
ALL of the thorn words. 
Note that eth is only lowercase (can never be a first letter) whereas
thorn can be both upper or lowercase and as a first letter.

Bless og saelir!
 
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