From: MRE <Marc.Enzmann@web.de>
Subject: Re: Why so hard to come up with a simple embedded Ada system?
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 01:45:24 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2010-07-17T01:45:24-07:00 [thread overview]
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In-Reply-To: 6z43tsypm0g7$.1n3qizisulnrs$.dlg@40tude.net
On 14 Jul., 09:23, "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mail...@dmitry-kazakov.de>
wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:55:45 -0700 (PDT), use...@scriptoriumdesigns.com
> wrote:
> The bottom line, if students want to use modern software developing
> techniques (read Ada), they have to press on lazy ignorant profs. Board
> package in Ada is a perfect project for a university SW engineering
> department.
>
Being one of the afore-mentioned lazy ignorant profs, I can assure
you, that
most CS departments are for -in many cases even sound- reasons not
interested
in developing BSPs or adapting cross-compilers to a given hardware
architecture.
Embedded Systems is just not sexy enough for them.
The guys who like to see Ada cross-compilers are those in the EE
departments, who
need to write software for embedded systems and are appalled by what
rubbish you
can write in C and still come away with it. Personally I have a
project up and
running where three of my students write code in Ada for AVR (8-Bit
and 32-Bit).
You can find decent Ada cross-compilers for both and that's what I
use.
If you ask me however to do a similar thing for say MSP430, sorry I
can't. I don't
have a clue how to generate the cross-compiler for Ada and I don't
know how to
write / adapt the Ravenscar-Runtime. Furthermore I just don't have the
time to lern
it and I lack the ressources to have my students do it.
The situation might be easier, if there was a decent description
available, that "the average guy"
like me, without a CS degree and thousands of hours of work-time to
spare, can understand.
Best regards,
Marc
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Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-14 4:55 Why so hard to come up with a simple embedded Ada system? usenet
2010-07-14 5:33 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-07-14 6:27 ` usenet
2010-07-14 18:05 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-07-14 7:23 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-07-17 8:45 ` MRE [this message]
2010-07-17 9:46 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-07-19 11:06 ` MRE
2010-07-19 17:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-07-19 18:39 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-07-17 16:29 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-07-18 0:26 ` usenet
2010-07-18 10:15 ` Simon Wright
2010-07-18 19:26 ` usenet
2010-07-18 11:48 ` jonathan
2010-07-18 15:26 ` Britt Snodgrass
2010-07-18 15:50 ` Britt Snodgrass
2010-07-19 23:00 ` Brian Drummond
2010-07-19 11:09 ` MRE
2010-07-14 8:03 ` anon
2010-07-14 11:43 ` jonathan
2010-07-14 12:36 ` jonathan
2010-07-14 12:46 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-07-14 19:56 ` jonathan
2010-07-15 1:36 ` Steve D
2010-07-15 9:50 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2010-07-17 14:25 ` Lucretia
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