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From: john@nospam.demon.co.uk (John McCabe)
Subject: Re: The old "Object.Method" syntax debate
Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 07:58:07 +0000 (UTC)
Date: 2003-05-23T07:58:07+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3ecdd3bf.1149272@news.btclick.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 254c16a.0305210726.485125de@posting.google.com

On 21 May 2003 08:26:35 -0700, mcq95@earthlink.net (Marc A. Criley)
wrote:

>Yeah, I'm bringing this up.  Kill the thread if your eyes just rolled
>up into your head %-)

<..snip..>

>I've pretty much always thought of this as a non-issue not worth all
>the bandwidth that's been expended on it, since it's a matter of
>syntactic sugar.

In most cases it *is* just a syntactic sugar issue, but it's a very
big issue when trying to explain to C++ and Java (and Visual Basic)
users how you would do something equivalent in Ada to what they've
already learned. The fact that Ada "method" calls look absolutely
nothing like what you would expect an object-oriented language's
method calls to look like is, in my view, a big issue in relation to
Ada's acceptance by less broad-minded developers.

As David points out, it *is* very nice to be able to see a pop-up
window of what options are available for an object as soon as you type
the ".".

>But reading that Carlisle's team changed only 127 SLOC in GNAT 3.15 to
>support it, I'm thinking that if it's that cheap to change in a
>compiler (and I know there's all the regression testing and LRM
>updates and so on that would have to accompany such a move), then
>maybe it's worth it to allow the alternate syntax and remove one of
>the admittedly vacuous objections to Ada raised by the language's
>critics.

Agreed.


Best Regards
John McCabe

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-05-23  7:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-21 15:26 The old "Object.Method" syntax debate Marc A. Criley
2003-05-21 15:47 ` David C. Hoos
2003-05-21 16:21   ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2003-05-21 16:34     ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-21 16:43       ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-21 17:13         ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-21 17:13         ` David C. Hoos
2003-05-21 18:21           ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-21 19:43             ` David C. Hoos
2003-05-21 20:36               ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-22  3:24                 ` David C. Hoos
2003-05-22  2:31             ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-05-21 18:32           ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-22  9:41       ` Xavier Nicollin
2003-05-22 14:56         ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-22 16:02           ` Xavier Nicollin
2003-05-23  2:56         ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-21 16:50     ` David C. Hoos
2003-05-21 16:36   ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-21 16:55     ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-05-21 18:03       ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-21 18:17         ` David C. Hoos
2003-05-21 18:22           ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-21 20:53             ` tmoran
2003-05-22  2:11               ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-22  4:04                 ` Dale Stanbrough
2003-05-22  7:34         ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-05-23  0:35         ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-21 17:02   ` David C. Hoos
2003-05-21 17:55   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-21 19:54   ` Bobby D. Bryant
2003-05-21 20:37     ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-22 14:32   ` Rodrigo Garcia
2003-05-22 15:39     ` David C. Hoos
2003-05-23  7:49       ` Rodrigo Garcia
2003-05-23  8:34         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-23 18:35           ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-05-25  5:38             ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-05-25  9:13               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-27  9:50                 ` John McCabe
2003-05-27 16:02                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-28  8:24                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-28 12:36                     ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-05-28 13:14                       ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-28 15:01                         ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-05-29  9:17                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-30 10:41                         ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-05-30 20:13                           ` Randy Brukardt
2003-06-02  9:11                             ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-05-31  9:29                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-28  3:02               ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-05-28  8:07                 ` John McCabe
2003-05-29  0:55                   ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-05-22 17:03     ` Gautier Write-only
2003-05-23 14:43   ` Steve
2003-05-23 14:51     ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-23 15:21     ` John McCabe
2003-05-23 23:43     ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-25  5:42     ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-25 14:40       ` Steve
2003-05-25 21:21         ` Gautier Write-only
2003-05-23  7:58 ` John McCabe [this message]
2003-05-23  8:39   ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-23 15:12     ` John McCabe
2003-05-23 15:18       ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-23 17:32     ` Stephen Leake
2003-05-27  9:09       ` John McCabe
2003-05-28 11:47       ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-05-28 16:14         ` Stephen Leake
2003-05-28 18:23           ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-05-23 20:45 ` steve_H
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2003-05-23 17:39 Lionel.DRAGHI
2003-05-23 17:59 Lionel.DRAGHI
2003-05-27  9:17 ` John McCabe
2003-06-03 17:23 Lionel.DRAGHI
2003-06-04  8:27 ` John McCabe
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