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From: AdaMagica <christ-usch.grein@t-online.de>
Subject: Re: discriminant questions
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 05:31:34 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2011-09-20T05:31:34-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3d49749a-1da5-49b9-bc68-5d9befb4ed62@hb5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: pvjwyqljhfih.1d1hj4pze7bpl$.dlg@40tude.net

> The example just confirms what I said:
>
>    type Smart_Pointer is private;  -- No discriminants!

OK, I misunderstood

> It uses access discriminant for the *accessor* kludge, which is an absolute
> different story (described by Randy): a short-living reference.
>
> P.S. I also see little or no point in using "accessors". Primitive
> operations Set and Get would be as good/bad.

No, here it's you who misunderstands. Get is still present and returns
an accessor instead of an access type and thus makes accesses safe (no
way to deallocate the accessed object). And Get *is* primitive.

And with reference types and objects in Ada 2012, there is no more
need for explicit dereference:
Get (P).Data simply becomes Get (P), i.e. it is overloaded to mean
either the accessor (or reference) object or the implicit dereference.

> They are also cleaner, much
> more efficient and, what is far more important, they are *primitive*.
> Accossor is a new type which means *contravariance*. The stuff is not
> composable under inheritance.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Dmitry A. Kazakovhttp://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-20 12:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-17 16:30 discriminant questions ytomino
2011-09-17 17:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-17 17:46   ` ytomino
2011-09-17 19:41     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-17 22:55       ` ytomino
2011-09-18  8:50         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-18 10:54           ` ytomino
2011-09-18 11:35             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-18 12:41               ` ytomino
2011-09-18 13:17                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-18 16:22                   ` ytomino
2011-09-18 16:32                   ` ytomino
2011-09-18 18:15                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-18 23:44                       ` ytomino
2011-09-19  7:27                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-18 14:43               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-18 16:46               ` Robert A Duff
2011-09-18 18:01                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-18 19:20                   ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-09-19  7:39                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-19 20:00                       ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-09-20  7:33                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-20 15:45                           ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-09-20 16:48                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-20 20:19                               ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-09-21  7:48                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-21 20:51                                   ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-09-22  8:07                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-22 20:57                                       ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-09-23  7:59                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-23 10:57                                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-09-23 22:30                                           ` Randy Brukardt
2011-09-23 22:50                                           ` Randy Brukardt
2011-09-24  6:46                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-26 22:48                                               ` Randy Brukardt
2011-09-27  8:10                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-27 10:18                                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-09-27 12:14                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-27 15:11                                                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-09-27 15:38                                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-27 18:06                                                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-09-27 19:06                                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-29  0:01                                                               ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-09-29  8:26                                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-30  1:24                                                                   ` Randy Brukardt
2011-09-30  8:10                                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-30 10:07                                                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-09-30 12:38                                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-30 17:40                                                                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-09-30 18:55                                                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-23  9:23                                       ` Stephen Leake
2011-09-23  9:48                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-23 22:42                                           ` Randy Brukardt
2011-09-24  6:56                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-26 22:43                                               ` Randy Brukardt
2011-09-24 10:47                                             ` Stephen Leake
2011-09-24 12:54                                       ` Simon Wright
2011-09-24 14:46                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-24 16:21                                           ` Simon Wright
2011-09-24 16:43                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-22  2:52                                   ` Randy Brukardt
2011-09-22  8:11                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-20  0:01           ` Randy Brukardt
2011-09-20  7:38             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-20 11:11               ` AdaMagica
2011-09-20 12:09                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-20 12:31                   ` AdaMagica [this message]
2011-09-20 12:57                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-20 23:28                       ` ytomino
2011-09-21  5:03                         ` AdaMagica
2011-09-21  8:08                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-21 10:03                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-09-21 10:29                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-22  3:21                           ` Randy Brukardt
2011-09-22  3:05                   ` Randy Brukardt
2011-09-19 23:35         ` Randy Brukardt
2011-09-20 21:39           ` ytomino
2011-09-22  3:32             ` Randy Brukardt
2011-09-18 16:32 ` ytomino
2011-09-19 14:46   ` ytomino
2011-09-19 15:14     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-19 17:49       ` ytomino
2011-09-20  7:29         ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-09-20 19:50           ` ytomino
2011-09-20  8:08         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-20 18:47           ` ytomino
2011-09-21  8:16             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-09-21  9:55               ` ytomino
2011-09-22  3:26                 ` Randy Brukardt
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