* Re: Why don't large companies use Ada?
@ 1994-12-06 18:00 Bob Wells #402
1994-12-08 17:51 ` PL/1 vs PL/I (Re: Why don't large companies use Ada?) Michael D Shapiro
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From: Bob Wells #402 @ 1994-12-06 18:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
G'day,
Here's a totally non-Ada question.
Way back in the dim dark past while studying at (yes, and graduating from (-: )
Uni. of NSW in Sydney I had to do some programming in PL/1. I'm sure that this
was pronounced as "pee-ell-one." I see that Robert Dewar (among others) writes
it as PL/1, yet I see that Dave Emery (along with others) writes it as PL/I.
Most of the Germans here at Eurocontrol swear "black-and-blue" that it is called
"pee-ell-eye." Yet I remember that the "eye" was supposed to be read as a Roman
numeral.
Is my memory playing tricks? What is the correct version?
BTW Sorry to take up bandwidth from that **incredibly important** "XYZ's Horribl
e
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'Avagoodone!
Bob W. (-:
P.S. The PL/(I1) question is a serious one, not important one, but not a joke
question either! (-:
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* PL/1 vs PL/I (Re: Why don't large companies use Ada?)
1994-12-06 18:00 Why don't large companies use Ada? Bob Wells #402
@ 1994-12-08 17:51 ` Michael D Shapiro
1994-12-18 13:47 ` Robert Dewar
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From: Michael D Shapiro @ 1994-12-08 17:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
In article <9412061800.AA26582@eurocontrol.de>,
Bob Wells #402 <wel@EUROCONTROL.DE> wrote:
>G'day,
>
>Here's a totally non-Ada question.
>
>Way back in the dim dark past while studying at (yes, and graduating from (-: )
>Uni. of NSW in Sydney I had to do some programming in PL/1. I'm sure that this
>was pronounced as "pee-ell-one." I see that Robert Dewar (among others) writes
>it as PL/1, yet I see that Dave Emery (along with others) writes it as PL/I.
>Most of the Germans here at Eurocontrol swear "black-and-blue" that it is called
>"pee-ell-eye." Yet I remember that the "eye" was supposed to be read as a Roman
>numeral.
>
>Is my memory playing tricks? What is the correct version?
>
>P.S. The PL/(I1) question is a serious one, not important one, but not a joke
>question either! (-:
As I recall, the I is a roman numeral one and the language name is
pronounced "pea-ell-one" no matter which notation scheme one uses. I
believe IBM used one form and the standards activity used the other
form (but I can't remember which was which; IBM probably used the "I").
It's probably worth noting that most languages don't have a version
number 1. There's FORTRAN, FORTRAN II, FORTRAN IV, ... Fortran 90. Or
SNOBOL, SNOBOL 2, ... SNOBOL4. I suppose it's because people have
enough confidence that they've got it right, only to have others find
problems or improvements worthy of coming up with a new version. That
theory says that PL/I (or PL/1) was just about the only programming
language ever developed that the developers didn't have confidence in.
--
Michael D. Shapiro, Ph.D. Internet: mshapiro@nosc.mil
Code 4123, NCCOSC RDT&E Division (NRaD) San Diego CA 92152
Voice: (619) 553-4080 FAX: (619) 553-4808 DSN: 553-4080
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* Re: PL/1 vs PL/I (Re: Why don't large companies use Ada?)
1994-12-08 17:51 ` PL/1 vs PL/I (Re: Why don't large companies use Ada?) Michael D Shapiro
@ 1994-12-18 13:47 ` Robert Dewar
1994-12-19 20:19 ` Norman H. Cohen
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From: Robert Dewar @ 1994-12-18 13:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
I think it is wrong to say that PL/I was called this because of lack of
confidence. In fact it was more like the "one" in
A-1 Autobody Repair Inc.
i.e. the "we're number one" of programming languages
the original title in all the papers was NPL (new programming language).
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* Re: PL/1 vs PL/I (Re: Why don't large companies use Ada?)
1994-12-18 13:47 ` Robert Dewar
@ 1994-12-19 20:19 ` Norman H. Cohen
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From: Norman H. Cohen @ 1994-12-19 20:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
In article <3d1egn$n3m@gnat.cs.nyu.edu>, dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar)
writes:
|> I think it is wrong to say that PL/I was called this because of lack of
|> confidence. In fact it was more like the "one" in
|>
|> A-1 Autobody Repair Inc.
|>
|> i.e. the "we're number one" of programming languages
Since less is more, I ought to point out that when this department (in
the mid-70's, before I came here) designed a subset consisting of roughly
80% of PL/I, they named it pl.8 (pronounced "point eight").
--
Norman H. Cohen ncohen@watson.ibm.com
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