* Re: Waay OT - America
@ 2002-04-07 20:45 Pedro Menendez
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From: Pedro Menendez @ 2002-04-07 20:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
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In article <1017738994.397480@makrell.interpost.no>, "Frank" <a@b.c> writes:
>
>Gibraltar, South-"Spain" (don't know how it was "colonized":-)
>
>Frank
>
Peace of Utrecht. In 1700.
Pedro Men�ndez
Oviedo (Spain)
http://petra.euitio.uniovi.es/~i1641014
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* Re: Waay OT - America (was: Ada?)
@ 2002-03-22 6:48 Christoph Grein
2002-03-22 15:44 ` Pat Rogers
2002-03-22 18:34 ` Waay OT - America (was: Ada?) Darren New
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From: Christoph Grein @ 2002-03-22 6:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
From: dennison@telepath.com
> Adrian Hoe <byhoe@greenlime.com> wrote in message
news:<3C97EF08.1AFB3D05@greenlime.com>...
> > Germans, Malaysians!, Chinese and Vietnamese and even CLA. I like
> > America but I personally disagree her politically. (I am not a
> > politician, ok? This is just my personal point of view :)
>
> Well, realise that this doesn't make a whole lot of sense. "America"
> isn't an entity that has one single coherent political view with which
> one can decide to disagree. There are about 300 million different
> politicial views in this country. Many of them are bound to fall on
> either side of yours.
>
> I noticed the other day that a poll was run in various middle eastern
> countries asking their views of America.
America, America ... not all of America is the USA. There are about 30 other
countries on this continent!
US citizens tend to see their country as encompassing the whole world. Even we
in Germany (or even whole of Europe?) are infected with this disease by feeling
forced to speak of US citizens as "Americans".
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* Re: Waay OT - America (was: Ada?)
2002-03-22 6:48 Waay OT - America (was: Ada?) Christoph Grein
@ 2002-03-22 15:44 ` Pat Rogers
2002-03-22 17:58 ` Preben Randhol
2002-03-22 18:34 ` Waay OT - America (was: Ada?) Darren New
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From: Pat Rogers @ 2002-03-22 15:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
"Christoph Grein" <christoph.grein@eurocopter.com> wrote in message
news:mailman.1016779803.31526.comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org...
> From: dennison@telepath.com
> > Adrian Hoe <byhoe@greenlime.com> wrote in message
> news:<3C97EF08.1AFB3D05@greenlime.com>...
> > > Germans, Malaysians!, Chinese and Vietnamese and even CLA. I like
> > > America but I personally disagree her politically. (I am not a
> > > politician, ok? This is just my personal point of view :)
> >
> > Well, realise that this doesn't make a whole lot of sense. "America"
> > isn't an entity that has one single coherent political view with which
> > one can decide to disagree. There are about 300 million different
> > politicial views in this country. Many of them are bound to fall on
> > either side of yours.
> >
> > I noticed the other day that a poll was run in various middle eastern
> > countries asking their views of America.
>
> America, America ... not all of America is the USA. There are about 30 other
> countries on this continent!
>
> US citizens tend to see their country as encompassing the whole world. Even we
> in Germany (or even whole of Europe?) are infected with this disease by
feeling
> forced to speak of US citizens as "Americans".
Hang on. That's much too broad. Clearly, you must base your conclusion on the
population of US citizens that you have encountered, and just as clearly, that
cannot be all US citizens.
For that matter, in the UK we are called "Yanks" (not that the UK is part of
Europe :-).
Now, I admit we Texans do have this view you describe -- not of the US, of
course, but of Texas! :-)
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* Re: Waay OT - America (was: Ada?)
2002-03-22 15:44 ` Pat Rogers
@ 2002-03-22 17:58 ` Preben Randhol
2002-03-22 18:18 ` Pat Rogers
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From: Preben Randhol @ 2002-03-22 17:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 15:44:30 GMT, Pat Rogers wrote:
> For that matter, in the UK we are called "Yanks" (not that the UK is part of
> Europe :-).
Huh? What continent is UK part of?
--
Preben Randhol �For me, Ada95 puts back the joy in programming.�
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* Re: Waay OT - America (was: Ada?)
2002-03-22 17:58 ` Preben Randhol
@ 2002-03-22 18:18 ` Pat Rogers
2002-03-23 0:14 ` Waay OT - America Georg Bauhaus
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From: Pat Rogers @ 2002-03-22 18:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
"Preben Randhol" <randhol+abuse@pvv.org> wrote in message
news:slrna9msj3.1r3.randhol+abuse@kiuk0156.chembio.ntnu.no...
> On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 15:44:30 GMT, Pat Rogers wrote:
> > For that matter, in the UK we are called "Yanks" (not that the UK is part of
> > Europe :-).
>
> Huh? What continent is UK part of?
The English people that I know (at least some of them) would say that Europe is
"over there", meaning "The Continent".
Hence the smiley.
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* Re: Waay OT - America
2002-03-22 18:18 ` Pat Rogers
@ 2002-03-23 0:14 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-03-23 12:32 ` Preben Randhol
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From: Georg Bauhaus @ 2002-03-23 0:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
Pat Rogers <progers@classwide.com> wrote:
:
: The English people that I know (at least some of them) would say that Europe is
: "over there", meaning "The Continent".
Strong indication of at least England not beeing part
of Europe is the term Continental Breakfast. Which OTOH
isn't always dested.
And how is Europe involved in The Commonwealth?...
-- georg
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* Re: Waay OT - America
2002-03-23 0:14 ` Waay OT - America Georg Bauhaus
@ 2002-03-23 12:32 ` Preben Randhol
2002-03-25 9:03 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
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From: Preben Randhol @ 2002-03-23 12:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Sat, 23 Mar 2002 00:14:12 +0000 (UTC), Georg Bauhaus wrote:
> Strong indication of at least England not beeing part
> of Europe is the term Continental Breakfast. Which OTOH
> isn't always dested.
Hehe. Well I find that in the countries of Europe with a great food
tradition, breakfasts are usually the worst meal of the day (if they at
all bother with it). This is a bit puzzeling to a Norwegian as breakfast
is recognised by most as a very important meal. However eating a full
English breakfast will last you all day (more or less).
> And how is Europe involved in The Commonwealth?...
Did England colonised any part of Europe?
--
Preben Randhol �For me, Ada95 puts back the joy in programming.�
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* Re: Waay OT - America (was: Ada?)
2002-03-22 6:48 Waay OT - America (was: Ada?) Christoph Grein
2002-03-22 15:44 ` Pat Rogers
@ 2002-03-22 18:34 ` Darren New
2002-03-22 18:45 ` Preben Randhol
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From: Darren New @ 2002-03-22 18:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
Christoph Grein wrote:
> America, America ... not all of America is the USA. There are about 30 other
> countries on this continent!
Strangely enough, whenever I'm in Europe and people ask me where I'm
from, I say "I'm from the US." The answer is invariably "America, you
mean?" After several weeks, I just gave up. :-)
--
Darren New
San Diego, CA, USA (PST). Cryptokeys on demand.
Remember, drive defensively if you drink.
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* Re: Waay OT - America (was: Ada?)
2002-03-22 18:34 ` Waay OT - America (was: Ada?) Darren New
@ 2002-03-22 18:45 ` Preben Randhol
2002-03-22 23:57 ` Waay OT - America Georg Bauhaus
2002-03-22 23:56 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-03-23 0:07 ` Georg Bauhaus
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From: Preben Randhol @ 2002-03-22 18:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 18:34:37 GMT, Darren New wrote:
> Christoph Grein wrote:
>> America, America ... not all of America is the USA. There are about 30 other
>> countries on this continent!
>
> Strangely enough, whenever I'm in Europe and people ask me where I'm
> from, I say "I'm from the US." The answer is invariably "America, you
Which United States ? ;-)
--
Preben Randhol �For me, Ada95 puts back the joy in programming.�
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* Re: Waay OT - America
2002-03-22 18:45 ` Preben Randhol
@ 2002-03-22 23:57 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-03-23 1:55 ` Jeffrey Carter
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From: Georg Bauhaus @ 2002-03-22 23:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
Preben Randhol <randhol+abuse@pvv.org> wrote:
:> Strangely enough, whenever I'm in Europe and people ask me where I'm
:> from, I say "I'm from the US." The answer is invariably "America, you
:
: Which United States ? ;-)
Estados Unidos, EEUU, that's pretty clear isn't it?
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* Re: Waay OT - America
2002-03-22 23:57 ` Waay OT - America Georg Bauhaus
@ 2002-03-23 1:55 ` Jeffrey Carter
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From: Jeffrey Carter @ 2002-03-23 1:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
Georg Bauhaus wrote:
>
> Preben Randhol <randhol+abuse@pvv.org> wrote:
>
> :> Strangely enough, whenever I'm in Europe and people ask me where I'm
> :> from, I say "I'm from the US." The answer is invariably "America, you
> :
> : Which United States ? ;-)
>
> Estados Unidos, EEUU, that's pretty clear isn't it?
Randhol was probably referring to the many other countries that have
"United States" in their full names, such as the Mexican United States,
the United States of Brazil, and so on. You have to remember that at one
time the USA was actually admired by other countries. Mexico, Brazil,
and Australia all copied the District of Columbia idea and established
federal districts, not part of any state, to house their capital cities.
--
Jeff Carter
"I fart in your general direction."
Monty Python & the Holy Grail
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* Re: Waay OT - America
2002-03-22 18:34 ` Waay OT - America (was: Ada?) Darren New
2002-03-22 18:45 ` Preben Randhol
@ 2002-03-22 23:56 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-03-23 0:30 ` Darren New
2002-03-23 0:07 ` Georg Bauhaus
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From: Georg Bauhaus @ 2002-03-22 23:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
Darren New <dnew@san.rr.com> wrote:
: Strangely enough, whenever I'm in Europe and people ask me where I'm
: from, I say "I'm from the US."
Try "United States". Abreviatitis is not that popular in
some parts of this continent :-.
- georg
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* Re: Waay OT - America
2002-03-22 23:56 ` Georg Bauhaus
@ 2002-03-23 0:30 ` Darren New
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From: Darren New @ 2002-03-23 0:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
Georg Bauhaus wrote:
> Try "United States". Abreviatitis is not that popular in
> some parts of this continent :-.
Well, I try "United States", "the states", etc. The europeans *I* run
into want to hear "american". :-)
Not that this is any more OT than anything else going on. :-)
--
Darren New
San Diego, CA, USA (PST). Cryptokeys on demand.
Remember, drive defensively if you drink.
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* Re: Waay OT - America
2002-03-22 18:34 ` Waay OT - America (was: Ada?) Darren New
2002-03-22 18:45 ` Preben Randhol
2002-03-22 23:56 ` Georg Bauhaus
@ 2002-03-23 0:07 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-03-23 15:10 ` tony
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From: Georg Bauhaus @ 2002-03-23 0:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
Darren New <dnew@san.rr.com> wrote:
: Strangely enough, whenever I'm in Europe and people ask me where I'm
: from, I say "I'm from the US."
In the light of Preben's question as to which united states
I should add that indeed there is some talk about the united
states of Europe, in these or other words. So wrt my advice in
another post to say "United States" I should probably add that
the expression might profit from a pantomimically accompanied
geographical indication :-) Ah, has it?
It's true: America here (Europe, continent) is easily understood
to mean USA; the US army was present in Europe after WW II, and
they were named Americans, even in scientific books. This seems
to have lasted.
-- georg
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* Re: Waay OT - America
2002-03-23 0:07 ` Georg Bauhaus
@ 2002-03-23 15:10 ` tony
2002-03-23 15:16 ` Gary Scott
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From: tony @ 2002-03-23 15:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
Georg Bauhaus wrote:
>
> Darren New <dnew@san.rr.com> wrote:
>
> : Strangely enough, whenever I'm in Europe and people ask me where I'm
> : from, I say "I'm from the US."
>
> In the light of Preben's question as to which united states
> I should add that indeed there is some talk about the united
> states of Europe, in these or other words. So wrt my advice in
> another post to say "United States" I should probably add that
> the expression might profit from a pantomimically accompanied
> geographical indication :-) Ah, has it?
>
> It's true: America here (Europe, continent) is easily understood
> to mean USA; the US army was present in Europe after WW II, and
> they were named Americans, even in scientific books. This seems
> to have lasted.
>
> -- georg
Well whats everybody got to say the Israeli palestinian conflict then
??????????????????????????????????????
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* Re: Waay OT - America
2002-03-23 15:10 ` tony
@ 2002-03-23 15:16 ` Gary Scott
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From: Gary Scott @ 2002-03-23 15:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
tony wrote:
>
> Georg Bauhaus wrote:
> >
> > Darren New <dnew@san.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > : Strangely enough, whenever I'm in Europe and people ask me where I'm
> > : from, I say "I'm from the US."
> >
> > In the light of Preben's question as to which united states
> > I should add that indeed there is some talk about the united
> > states of Europe, in these or other words. So wrt my advice in
> > another post to say "United States" I should probably add that
> > the expression might profit from a pantomimically accompanied
> > geographical indication :-) Ah, has it?
> >
> > It's true: America here (Europe, continent) is easily understood
> > to mean USA; the US army was present in Europe after WW II, and
> > they were named Americans, even in scientific books. This seems
> > to have lasted.
> >
> > -- georg
>
> Well whats everybody got to say the Israeli palestinian conflict then
> ??????????????????????????????????????
I say that genetically speaking there's very little difference between
Israelis, Palestinians, Irish, Germans, Chinese, Finnish,
Icelanders...so why can't we all just get along.
--
Gary Scott
mailto:scottg@flash.net
mailto:webmaster@fortranlib.com
http://www.fortranlib.com
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