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From: john.mccabe@emrad.ns.com (John McCabe)
Subject: Re: memory leakages with Ada?
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:37:03 GMT
Date: 2002-03-15T09:37:03+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3c91bfa3.1987537@news.demon.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: a6r075$7ei$1@nh.pace.co.uk

On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 15:12:21 -0500, "Marin David Condic"
<dont.bother.mcondic.auntie.spam@[acm.org> wrote:

>In comparing Ada to C on this there are two observations: One is that Ada
>provides a different model for dynamic allocation than does C that includes,
>among other things, a lot more checks/safety features to minimize the
>possibility of lost memory. (Still, the standard doesn't require garbage
>collection so you can still leak memory if you mess things up.) It isn't
>impossible to leak memory in Ada - just less likely.

One of the things I've found recently, since starting to use C++ more,
is that Ada.UncheckedDeallocation is so much nicer than 'delete' as it
returns you a nice, null pointer! 'delete' in C++ appears to remove
the allocated block, but leave your pointer pointing to where it used
to be!

>The other thing is that stylistically, Ada tends to do things off of the
>stack or global memory rather than require lots of dynamic allocation. Short
>of building your own linked data structures, you generally almost *never*
>create things via dynamic allocation. (Constrast this with C where you
>routinely do dynamic allocation of strings or structs and routinely manage
>pointers to all sorts of things.) If you find you are constantly dynamically
>allocating things in your Ada programs, you are probably not doing it The
>Ada Way (trying to translate C into Ada?) and need to rethink what you're
>doing.

I'm not convinced this comment is 100% valid, from having worked on
large scale Object-Oriented Ada projects over the last 3 years or so
where there has been significant (if not huge) amounts of dynamic
allocation. It is at least partially true in that you can often
restructure your code to avoid dynamic allocation, but...



  reply	other threads:[~2002-03-15  9:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-14 14:07 memory leakages with Ada? Calvin Ow
2002-03-14 14:31 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-03-14 20:42   ` Nick Roberts
2002-03-14 21:11     ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-03-14 21:07   ` Anh_Vo
2002-03-14 20:12 ` Marin David Condic
2002-03-15  9:37   ` John McCabe [this message]
2002-03-15 12:55     ` Pat Rogers
2002-03-16  4:36       ` Will
2002-03-16  4:53         ` Pat Rogers
2002-03-16 12:21         ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-03-16  9:13       ` DPH
2002-03-16 14:38         ` Pat Rogers
2002-03-16 14:56           ` DPH
2002-03-16 15:51             ` Preben Randhol
2002-03-16 16:39               ` DPH
2002-03-16 19:51                 ` Pat Rogers
2002-03-16 20:40                   ` DPH
2002-03-17 19:31                   ` Richard Riehle
2002-03-17 21:49                     ` Pat Rogers
2002-03-17 22:02                       ` Pat Rogers
2002-03-18 22:32                         ` Randy Brukardt
2002-03-18 22:47                           ` Pat Rogers
2002-03-18  7:22                       ` Richard Riehle
2002-03-18 17:35                     ` Marin David Condic
2002-03-17 16:26                 ` Steve Doiel
2002-03-16 20:18         ` Robert A Duff
2002-03-16 20:36           ` DPH
2002-03-15 14:20     ` Marin David Condic
2002-03-18 17:54       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-03-18 19:54         ` Hyman Rosen
2002-03-18 20:34           ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-03-18 21:18             ` Hyman Rosen
2002-03-18 21:45               ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-03-20  1:19                 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-03-20 17:06                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-03-20 17:56                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-03-20 17:48                   ` Marin David Condic
2002-03-22  0:25               ` Matthew Woodcraft
2002-03-22  5:10                 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-03-18 22:18         ` Marin David Condic
2002-03-20 20:49         ` Bertrand Augereau
2002-03-21  4:31         ` Will
2002-03-15 16:00     ` Hyman Rosen
2002-03-15 21:59       ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-03-17  5:43         ` Kevin Cline
2002-03-17  7:22           ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-03-18  4:09             ` Kevin Cline
2002-03-18 16:54               ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-03-18 17:38             ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-03-19  9:21               ` John McCabe
2002-03-19 17:11                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-03-19 17:16                   ` Pat Rogers
2002-03-19 17:51                   ` David C. Hoos
2002-03-19 18:20                   ` Frank J. Lhota
2002-03-19 23:43                     ` Mark Johnson
2002-03-20 15:09                       ` Frank J. Lhota
2002-03-17  7:27           ` Hyman Rosen
2002-03-18  3:52             ` Kevin Cline
2002-03-18  5:37               ` Hyman Rosen
2002-03-15 17:41   ` Kevin Cline
2002-03-15 18:00     ` Marin David Condic
2002-03-15 18:08     ` Hyman Rosen
2002-03-16 10:15       ` Kevin Cline
2002-03-14 23:14 ` Kevin Cline
2002-03-15  3:20 ` Steve Doiel
2002-03-15  9:32   ` John McCabe
2002-03-15 15:46     ` Hyman Rosen
2002-03-15 17:29     ` Kevin Cline
2002-03-15 15:48   ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-03-16  3:05     ` Steve Doiel
2002-03-16 20:19       ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-03-15 17:25   ` Kevin Cline
2002-03-15 18:03     ` Hyman Rosen
2002-03-16 10:07       ` Kevin Cline
2002-03-17  3:00         ` Hyman Rosen
2002-03-15  9:27 ` John McCabe
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2002-03-20  6:25 Christoph Grein
2002-03-20 16:35 ` Hyman Rosen
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