From: dmitry@elros.cbb-automation.de (Dmitry A. Kazakov)
Subject: Re: Merits of re-dispatching [LONG]
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 09:02:27 GMT
Date: 2002-02-12T09:02:27+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3c68d3ce.90025781@News.CIS.DFN.DE> (raw)
In-Reply-To: u68q8fc9t4qt1c@corp.supernews.com
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 18:51:00 -0500, "Matthew Heaney" <mheaney@on2.com>
wrote:
>"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <dmitry@elros.cbb-automation.de> wrote in message
>news:3c6392e8.2400843@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
> > The reason why C++ dispatches in B::f (), is that otherwise it would
>> impossible to have class wide subroutines [see the point 1]. In
>> contrary to this Ada 95 does have class wide routines, so my question,
>> why [explicit] re-dispatching is supported in Ada 95?
>
>Because you may want to let a derived type override the algorithm in the
>parent type.
>
>A class-wide operation typically declares an overall algorithm, and
>dispatching is used to provide the details:
>
>package P is
> type T is tagged limited null record;
> procedure Op1 (O : T);
> procedure Op2 (O : T);
> procedure Op (O : T'Class);
>end P;
>
>package body P is
> procedure Op (O : T'Class) is --static
> begin
> if <something> then
> Op1 (O); --dynamic
> else
> Op2 (O); --dynamic
> end if;
> end Op;
>...
>end P;
>
>This is fine, but if you want to change the algorithm used by class-wide
>operation Op, you can't.
And this is good, because a class-wide operation is not defined for
the root type. It is defined for the closure of all types derived from
the root. Thus it cannot be overriden. It is a progam design flaw if
you need to do so.
What you want is actually multiple implementations, but this is not
the realm of class-wided routines, but of dispatching ones. Consider
class-wide routines as an [good] alternative to generic routines. You
cannot override a generic routine, you can only overload it.
Purely theoretically it is thinkable to build a type system with one
additional type level: class-class-wide type. Then one could have an
ability to dispatch on class-wide routines:
procedure MetaOp (O : T'Class'Class) is
begin
Op (O); -- Meta dispatch
end MetaOp;
Though I do not think that such thing will appear in Ada very soon
(:-))
>In general, an operation --primitive or class-wide-- should document which
>dispatching operations it calls, so that a derived type knows what is
>expected of it.
It is a maintenace disaster. Though LSP cannot be enforced, one should
support it as much as possible.
However, my point was that the language should not support
re-dispatching. If a programmer want it he/she must do some work, for
instance, add a type identification member. It is very similar to the
Unchecked_Conversion case.
Regards,
Dmitry Kazakov
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Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-02-07 10:26 Merits of re-dispatching [LONG] Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-02-07 15:03 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-02-08 1:29 ` Matthew Heaney
2002-02-08 9:16 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-02-08 18:30 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-02-09 0:10 ` Matthew Heaney
2002-02-12 8:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-02-12 21:37 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-02-13 9:29 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-02-13 14:32 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-02-13 19:58 ` Dave Harris
2002-02-14 15:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-02-16 12:10 ` Dave Harris
2002-02-18 8:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-02-18 19:47 ` Merits of re-dispatching Dave Harris
2002-02-19 9:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-02-21 5:49 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-02-21 9:04 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-02-21 18:17 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-02-22 9:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-02-22 16:59 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-02-25 8:51 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-02-08 23:51 ` Merits of re-dispatching [LONG] Matthew Heaney
2002-02-12 9:02 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2002-02-07 23:40 ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-08 8:56 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-02-08 1:06 ` Matthew Heaney
2002-02-08 9:48 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-02-09 0:16 ` Matthew Heaney
2002-02-08 18:10 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-02-09 0:41 ` Matthew Heaney
2002-02-08 18:33 ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-09 4:07 ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-12 10:13 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-02-14 20:57 ` Tucker Taft
2002-02-15 15:43 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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