Style Guide reference - subprogram/variable name lengths

Style Guide reference - subprogram/variable name lengths

[Martin Dowie]

oops - it is customary to have a subject!

Re: Style Guide reference - subprogram/variable name lengths

[Preben Randhol]

On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:19:01 -0000, Martin Dowie wrote:
> oops - it is customary to have a subject!

A question or comment as well ;-)

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Re: Style Guide reference - subprogram/variable name lengths

[Martin Dowie]

"Preben Randhol" <randhol+abuse@pvv.org> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:19:01 -0000, Martin Dowie wrote:
> > oops - it is customary to have a subject!
>
> A question or comment as well ;-)

"I refer the honourable gentleman to the question I provided earlier"
to paraphrase our Prime Minister et al. :-)

Re: Style Guide reference - subprogram/variable name lengths

[Preben Randhol]

On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 16:41:38 -0000, Martin Dowie wrote:
> 
> "I refer the honourable gentleman to the question I provided earlier"
> to paraphrase our Prime Minister et al. :-)

Which question I cannot find it.

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Re: Style Guide reference - subprogram/variable name lengths

[martin.m.dowie]

"Preben Randhol" <randhol+abuse@pvv.org> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 16:41:38 -0000, Martin Dowie wrote:
> >
> > "I refer the honourable gentleman to the question I provided earlier"
> > to paraphrase our Prime Minister et al. :-)
>
> Which question I cannot find it.

ha! weird! my first post appears via my work newserver but not
my news server at home! (I had forgotten to add a subject, so
presumable some news servers filter on this...)

My original question was - the Ada Quality and Style Guide
references Schneiderman's "The Territory, Paths and Destinations"
and in particular cites it for not using 'too long' identifiers. But
having trawled google et al I can't find this paper on any internet
site. Can anyone give a brief explanation of what the paper says
and what the maximum length he determined should be?

Or, preferably, give me a URL to the paper!

Thanks and apologies again!

Thanks and apologies for

Re: Style Guide reference - subprogram/variable name lengths

[Preben Randhol]

On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 22:27:31 -0000, martin.m.dowie wrote:
> My original question was - the Ada Quality and Style Guide
> references Schneiderman's "The Territory, Paths and Destinations"
> and in particular cites it for not using 'too long' identifiers. But
> having trawled google et al I can't find this paper on any internet
> site. Can anyone give a brief explanation of what the paper says
> and what the maximum length he determined should be?

(Try yahoo first it uses google if it cannot find anything interesting.)

From the authors home page:

   86-02
   Shneiderman, B. (Feb. 1986)
   Empirical studies of programmers: the territory, paths, and
   destinations,
   keynote address for workshop, Empirical Studies of Programmers, E.
   Soloway & R. Iyengar, Eds., Ablex (June 1986) 1-12.
   CS-TR-1623 , CAR-TR-187 [Abstract]

   Abstract Information:

       * This paper attempts to describe the varied intellectual
       territory that programmers work in. It offers several paths for
       researchers who wish to explore this territory: controlled
       experiments, observational or field studies, surveys, and
       cognitive theories.  Finally, this paper suggests several
       important destinations for researchers: refining the use of
       current languages, imporving present and future languages,
       developing special purpose languages, and improving tools and
       methods.

Unless somebody has this article at hand, I think you have to go visit
your nearest university (or other) library.  Usually articles available
on-line does not date so far back, besides you need a library to access
these sites.

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Re: Style Guide reference - subprogram/variable name lengths

[Martin Dowie]

> (Try yahoo first it uses google if it cannot find anything interesting.)
>
[snip]
>
> Unless somebody has this article at hand, I think you have to go visit
> your nearest university (or other) library.  Usually articles available
> on-line does not date so far back, besides you need a library to access
> these sites.

I'm not sure if my nearest university lets people walk in off the street
to get this sort of thing! :-)

I had found the above too, but was hoping someone would have the 'magic'
number to hand (all together now '42'! ;-)

Re: Style Guide reference - subprogram/variable name lengths

[Preben Randhol]

On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:02:24 -0000, Martin Dowie wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure if my nearest university lets people walk in off the street
> to get this sort of thing! :-)

You don't have a library service at work that orthers articles (work
related of course) for you?

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Re: Style Guide reference - subprogram/variable name lengths

[Martin Dowie]

> You don't have a library service at work that orthers articles (work
> related of course) for you?

not one that's handy! It's about 7 miles across town :-(

Re: Style Guide reference - subprogram/variable name lengths

[John English]

Martin Dowie wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure if my nearest university lets people walk in off the street
> to get this sort of thing! :-)

It should do; all the ones I've ever come across (apart from the
Bodleian) are public access... Borrowing is a different matter,
though!

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Re: Style Guide reference - subprogram/variable name lengths

[Martin Dowie]

"John English" <je@brighton.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> It should do; all the ones I've ever come across (apart from the
> Bodleian) are public access... Borrowing is a different matter,
> though!

Really? I thought they were clamping down on 'strangers on the
campus'?.. Even so, doesn't help much - the nearest uni. library
to this office is probably as far as the company one across town doh!