From: dmitry@elros.cbb-automation.de (Dmitry A. Kazakov)
Subject: Re: How to avoid unreferenced objects (mutexes etc)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:30:50 GMT
Date: 2002-01-17T15:30:50+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3c46e8aa.93415500@News.CIS.DFN.DE> (raw)
In-Reply-To: slrna4dbdr.kn.lutz@taranis.iks-jena.de
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:55:57 +0000 (UTC), lutz@iks-jena.de (Lutz
Donnerhacke) wrote:
>* Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>>* lutz@iks-jena.de (Lutz Donnerhacke) wrote:
>>>* Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>>>>I believe it is worth to allow that for all types, i.e. to allow
>>>>overriding a non-abstract subroutine with an abstract one. A
>>>>dispatching call to a disallowed subprogram will then raise an
>>>>exception [like when tags of arguments are different].
>>>
>>>I strongly discourage from such a change. Class wide programming using
>>>abstract tagged types are used for the guarantee of a working interface.
>>
>>There is no way to enforce LSP, if you aim at that. Just consider an
>>overriding like:
>>
>>procedure Do_Something (...) is
>>begin
>> raise Program_Error;
>>end Do_Something;
>
>Then the reason is on client site. Which is easy to detect.
How it differentiates from:
procedure Do_Something (..) is abstract;
The later has an additional advantage that some calls to it can be
detected at compile time.
Consider disallowing methods as an additional constraint. Any
constraint imposed by a derived type is incompatible with LSP. Should
we then dismiss the idiom of constrained subtypes?
>>And who said that derived types shall be LSP subtypes?
>
>The generic preamble requiring the correct instantiation.
You must define the word correct. If correct = absolutely
substitutable then of course LSP is required.
Regards,
Dmitry Kazakov
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2002-01-11 13:48 How to avoid unreferenced objects (mutexes etc) Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-01-11 13:52 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2002-01-11 14:47 ` Robert A Duff
2002-01-11 18:02 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-01-11 19:40 ` Robert Dewar
2002-01-12 10:18 ` Martin Dowie
2002-01-14 8:54 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-01-12 1:11 ` Nick Roberts
2002-01-12 22:04 ` Matthew Heaney
2002-01-13 5:45 ` Nick Roberts
2002-01-13 8:21 ` tmoran
2002-01-13 16:12 ` Nick Roberts
2002-01-13 15:08 ` Simon Wright
2002-01-15 17:53 ` Nick Roberts
2002-01-13 16:51 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-01-14 23:32 ` Matthew Heaney
2002-01-15 8:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-01-14 8:31 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2002-01-14 9:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-01-15 15:41 ` Matthew Heaney
2002-01-15 16:18 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-01-15 16:57 ` Darren New
2002-01-15 18:57 ` Matthew Heaney
2002-01-16 0:57 ` Darren New
2002-01-16 16:35 ` Stephen Leake
2002-01-16 18:07 ` Darren New
2002-01-16 23:18 ` Matthew Heaney
2002-01-16 23:04 ` Matthew Heaney
2002-01-17 0:21 ` Darren New
2002-01-16 15:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-01-15 18:59 ` Nick Roberts
2002-01-16 15:05 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-01-16 18:30 ` Matthew Heaney
2002-01-17 8:58 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-01-17 9:19 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2002-01-17 10:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-01-17 10:55 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2002-01-17 15:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2002-01-17 16:29 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2002-01-16 20:28 ` Robert A Duff
2002-01-17 19:05 ` Nick Roberts
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