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From: "Dan'l Miller" <optikos@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: requiring Ada(2020?) in self-driving autonomous automobiles
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 07:24:00 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2018-03-28T07:24:00-07:00	[thread overview]
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https://quality-one.com/iatf-16949
Ada(2020?) and perhaps, say, DO-178B/C would need to be made a de facto minimum-best-practices requirement in the IATF 16949 community in the drive-by-wire and autonomous automotive industry.

http://www.fcanorthamerica.com/company/leadership/Pages/Management.aspx
Scott R. Garberding is the chief quality-management officer at Fiat-Chrysler America.

https://www.gm.com/company/leadership/corporate-officers.html
Mark Reuss is the chief quality-management officer at General Motors.

https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/people/linda-cash.html
Linda Cash in the chief quality-management officer at Ford.

http://ir.tesla.com/management.cfm
It is unclear who acts as the chief quality-management officer at Telsa.  Likely, either J.B. Straubel or Elon Musk himself.

https://forums.tesla.com/forum/forums/quality-assurance-and-quality-management
http://www.iatfglobaloversight.org/oem-requirements/customer-specific-requirements
It is unclear whether Tesla views itself as adhering to IATF 16949  (which conforms to my summary of the voluntary-membership-in-effectively-guilds summary of the USA's regulatory system of technology.

For the Ubers & Googles of the world, there appears to be little evidence of their own voluntary adherence to any rigorous quality-management regimes, such as IATF 16949.  Although in Uber's case, it is conceivable that Uber is participating in IATF 16949 via Ford-subsidiary Volvo's activity in IATF 16949, depending on how “base vehicle” is defined to include or exclude the autonomous self-driving hardware & software on those vehicles:
http://electronics360.globalspec.com/article/7180/volvo-and-uber-partner-for-self-driving-cars

https://www2.deloitte.com/insights/us/en/focus/future-of-mobility/mobility-ecosystem-future-of-auto-insurance.html?id=us:2ps:3bi:confidence:eng:cons:::na:vvsboamD:1077703202:76622248597681:bb:Future_of_Mobility:Auto_Insurance_BMM:nb&msclkid=bc7f9b7e6a5b15731e6bc1c5f569f859
A summary of the future of property-casualty automotive insurance as self-driving autonomous vehicles (and ride-sharing fleets) increase in the future.  Who pays for automotive insurance in the future and does the manufacturer of the autonomous-vehicle control cause drastically-different premium rates?  (It should; the Ada & DO-179B/C communities would need to drive that point home.)

https://globalnews.ca/news/3270429/self-driving-cars-insurance-liability
Insurance companies can very much be taught about deep design flaws in hackery and nonrigorous quality-management regimes.  The true driver of a wrecked autonomous self-drive automobile is the software & hardware manufacturer of the self-driving control system.  When the wreck is the self-driving software/hardware's fault, then that autonomous-control-system manufacturer had better have deep pockets like something resembling malpractice/bonded insurance commonplace in the medical & licensed-professional-engineer industries.  The most-expedient way to eliminate cavalier yahoo hackery in the software for self-driving autonomous automobiles is to financially drive them out of business by excessive liability burden and other excessive fees tied to their cavalier yahoo hackery.  Even better if this message can be publicized with the general public via, say, the insurance industry.

These are the beginnings of points of contacts for the Ada ARG to reach out and influence the North American and European automobile manufacturers (even the ones without much self-driven autonomous vehicle footprint) to crack down on the cavalier yahoos in their industry.  Likewise these are the beginnings of points of contacts for the Ada ARG to reach out to the property-casualty automotive insurance industry to educate them on which technological regimes are safe self-drivers and which technological regimes are analogous to a drunk driver, and that their premiums should be low or punitive depending on the technology & quality-management regime inside the self-driving autonomous control-system software & hardware.  Punitive insurance premiums will quickly drive cavalier yahoo software out of the marketplace, toward the strongly-preferred-by-cheaper-premiums Ada-based and DO-178B/C-based self-driving autonomous control-systems.

Indeed, by bringing in IATF 16949 luminaries (and perhaps even property-casualty automotive insurance luminaries) in now during the Ada2020 process, Ada2020 can be crafted to do precisely what Randy seeks:  be the crowning achievement for total-quality-management in self-driving autonomous vehicles.  (Or the ARG can work heads down on Ada2020's provably-correct tasking without connecting the dots with the quality-management and insurance-industry people, and then Ada2020 can appear as a coulda-woulda-shoulda footnote in some automotive-industry history book 30 years from now, somewhat the way MULTICS is now in the history of operating-system-feature advances.)

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Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-28 13:26 requiring Ada(2020?) in self-driving autonomous automobiles Dan'l Miller
2018-03-28 14:24 ` Dan'l Miller [this message]
2018-03-28 14:26   ` Dan'l Miller
2018-03-28 21:38     ` Bojan Bozovic
2018-03-29  3:56       ` Dan'l Miller
2018-03-29  7:21         ` Bojan Bozovic
2018-04-02 21:06         ` Robert I. Eachus
2018-04-03  8:58           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-11-26 11:44             ` Marius Amado-Alves
2018-11-26 17:31               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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