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From: john.mccabe@emrad.com.nospam (John McCabe)
Subject: Re: Joint Strike Fighter
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 17:04:55 GMT
Date: 2001-11-02T17:04:55+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3be2d0ee.29457858@news.demon.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 11bf7180.0111020816.2e376fd5@posting.google.com

On 2 Nov 2001 08:16:20 -0800, ian0kerr@my-deja.com (Ian) wrote:

>> I don't find
>> >anything that we need from Ada and the available tools that C++ would
>> >provide.
> 
>> I'm confused by this comment, can you please explain it in slightly
>> different words?
>
>Ada provides us with everything we need. C++ does not have an
>advantage for us.

So what you meant was that there is nothing that C++ would provide
that you don't get from Ada and the available tools.

>> Wow - I Had no idea there was a process in place in your department.
>
>If you want a copy of the above, email me your snail address. :-;

It's alright - I'm not that interested, but thanks anyway.

>Well as Ron D. wrote a process, a while back, for your department why
>would you think we would be different?

Ron D? First I've heard of it. As far as I'm aware we were way ahead
on the project lifecycle and nothing had been done like this for our
department.

>> I thought BAE *and* AeI were having
>> problems recruiting good, permanent Ada engineers because:
 
>The turn over is quite low and we get replacements quickly. 

Contract or permanent? I don't know of anyone who started there as a
permie to do Ada work, and even if they did, the chances are they were
told they would be doing something else!

>> 1) They don't pay enough
>Money is not everything especially if the project is not the usual
>shambles!

True, but a reasonable amount is required and, to be honest, for what
AeI were offering contractors to go permanent it wouldn't be worth
getting out of bed for!

>> That's good - we never got *any* training on the rig team!

>You should have asked your management as we had problems spending all
>the training money one year. Probably because other departments did
>not encourage training.

Rig development had *no* budget for training. Any training given to
members of the team was through general training budget, so wasn't
allowed to be spent on contractors.
 
>> - and it will
>> certainly be more reliable if you have to use C++,
> Even my C++ course teacher thought that C++ was a dangerous language.

Did he say it *is* a dangerous language, or it *can be* a dangerous
language. There is a difference - in untrained hands it is still easy
enough to write highly unreliable Ada programs!

>> to use Ada trained
>> developers to do the job than those who have only ever used C/C++
>> based languages!
>
>I hope you are happer where you are now.

Oh I am!!




  reply	other threads:[~2001-11-02 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-29  4:55 Joint Strike Fighter Richard Riehle
2001-10-29 11:11 ` Ian
2001-10-31  6:38   ` Richard Riehle
2001-10-31 13:38     ` David Botton
2001-10-31 16:15     ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-31 16:25       ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-01  4:44         ` JF Harrison
2001-11-01 14:41           ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-03 16:58             ` Richard Riehle
2001-11-03 18:52               ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-05 15:30                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-06  2:07                   ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-06 16:46                   ` Rex Reges
2001-11-06 18:17                     ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-06 19:07                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-11-06 21:19                       ` Rex Reges
2001-11-06 23:01                         ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-11-08 14:55                         ` Rex Reges
     [not found]                         ` <Wa+tfCvHgQXH@eisner.e <3BEA9CED.8C6BF839@reges.org>
2001-11-08 15:43                           ` Ian Wild
2001-11-08 22:18                             ` Rex Reges
2001-11-22  6:25                               ` David Thompson
2001-11-08 16:23                         ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-11-08 13:53                     ` Marc A. Criley
2001-11-08 22:15                       ` Rex Reges
2001-11-09 12:44                         ` Marc A. Criley
2001-11-09 15:41                           ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-09 15:35                     ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-10  6:56                       ` john flynn
2001-11-04  1:08               ` David Botton
2001-11-05 14:59               ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-01 14:55           ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-01 21:47           ` P Norby
2001-11-02 17:02           ` P Norby
     [not found]           ` <003301c163c0$289f8c60$45d82c41@vaio>
2001-11-02 19:54             ` JF Harrison
     [not found]             ` <002a01c163d8$25bb4440$2702a8c0@WorkGroup>
2001-11-02 20:40               ` JF Harrison
2001-11-01 11:38         ` Ian
2001-11-01 14:51           ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-02  9:08           ` John McCabe
2001-11-02 16:16             ` Ian
2001-11-02 17:04               ` John McCabe [this message]
2001-11-29 16:48           ` Matthew Heaney
2001-11-29 17:12             ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-30 12:49               ` Simon Wright
2001-11-30 14:46                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-30 16:37                   ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-30 15:03                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-30 16:26                   ` Simon Wright
2001-11-30 16:39                     ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-30 17:08                     ` Pat Rogers
2001-11-30 22:53                     ` Chad R. Meiners
2001-12-01  8:08                       ` Simon Wright
2001-10-29 15:02 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-29 17:55 ` Paul A Storm
2001-11-01  4:46   ` Richard Riehle
2001-11-02 20:03 ` Dirk Craeynest
2001-11-07  3:57 ` Vincent Marciante
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