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From: "David Crocker" <dcrocker@imsltd.com>
Subject: 'withing' problem
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 10:24:09 -0000
Date: 2001-11-02T10:24:09+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3be27344$0$227$ed9e5944@reading.news.pipex.net> (raw)

Are there any commercial compilers with language extensions to work around
the infamous "withing" problem?

We have a tool that generates (currently) C++ or Java code from precise
specifications and we would very much like to generate Ada95 as well so we
can better target safety-critical applications. But because our tool
encourages an object-oriented style, any attempt at code geenration in Ada
usually falls foul of the withing-problem very quickly (we can't even
compile the runtime library without hitting the problem).

I am aware of the woraround described at
http://home.bluemarble.net/~jvolan/WithingProblem/FAQ.html but I doubt this
would be acceptable in a safety-critical application. I am also aware that
GNAT implements a workaround, but what we really need is a validated
compiler.

I heard that the next update to the Ada language circa 2005 will address the
problem, but this is too far away to be any consolation. Surely we can't be
the only company that needs the problem fixed urgently? How do the
developers of large military software systems manage?

Regards

David Crocker, Escher Technologies (www.eschertech.com)






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Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-11-02 10:24 David Crocker [this message]
2001-11-02 10:58 ` 'withing' problem David C. Hoos, Sr.
2001-11-02 21:32   ` Florian Weimer
2001-11-02 14:49 ` Robert Dewar
2001-11-05  9:49   ` David Crocker
2001-11-02 15:06 ` Wes Groleau
2001-11-02 15:21 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-02 17:19   ` Ed Falis
2001-11-02 18:17     ` Preben Randhol
2001-11-02 19:15       ` Ed Falis
2001-11-03  2:52       ` DuckE
2001-11-03  9:50         ` Preben Randhol
2001-11-03  8:25   ` Simon Wright
2001-11-03 17:27     ` Richard Riehle
2001-11-04 10:23       ` Simon Wright
2001-11-08 10:58         ` Preben Randhol
2001-11-08 15:24           ` Peter Hend�n
2001-11-10 17:57           ` Simon Wright
2001-11-05  9:48       ` David Crocker
2001-11-05 20:36         ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-06 15:56           ` David Crocker
2001-11-07 15:06             ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-07 16:49               ` Darren New
2001-11-09 20:28         ` Matthew Heaney
2001-11-10 13:55           ` Preben Randhol
2001-11-12 15:10             ` Matthew Heaney
2001-11-10 18:12           ` Simon Wright
2001-11-12 15:13             ` Matthew Heaney
2001-11-13  7:01               ` Simon Wright
2001-11-14 16:10                 ` Matthew Heaney
2001-11-15 20:21                   ` Simon Wright
2001-11-15 21:07                     ` Matthew Heaney
2001-11-16 14:37                     ` Stephen Leake
2001-11-17 22:29                     ` Richard Riehle
2001-11-18 14:53                       ` Simon Wright
2001-11-19  5:51                         ` Simon Wright
2001-11-19 15:23                         ` Matthew Heaney
2001-11-19 17:19                           ` 'withing' problem [code generation] Mark Johnson
2001-11-19 20:58                             ` Stephen Leake
2001-11-19 21:20                               ` Matthew Heaney
2001-11-21  6:20                                 ` Simon Wright
2001-11-20  0:50                               ` Mark Biggar
2001-11-21  6:21                                 ` Simon Wright
2001-11-20 14:42                               ` Mark Johnson
2001-11-20 16:34                                 ` David Crocker
2001-11-20 18:34                                   ` Richard Pinkall-Pollei
2001-11-20 18:43                                   ` Matthew Heaney
2001-11-20 20:37                                     ` Mark Lundquist
2001-11-22 11:49                                     ` David Crocker
2001-11-20 20:35                                   ` Mark Lundquist
2001-11-22 11:42                                     ` David Crocker
2001-11-19 19:30                           ` 'withing' problem Preben Randhol
2001-11-03  8:26 ` Simon Wright
2001-11-03  8:38 ` Simon Wright
2001-11-05  9:54   ` David Crocker
2001-11-05 18:04     ` tmoran
2001-11-06 15:29       ` David Crocker
2001-11-07  0:38         ` tmoran
2001-11-07 10:11           ` David Crocker
2001-11-07 18:59             ` tmoran
2001-11-08 11:38               ` David Crocker
2001-11-10 18:03                 ` Simon Wright
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