From: "Martin Dowie" <martin.dowie@nospam.baesystems.com>
Subject: Re: Ada The Best Language?
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 09:39:36 +0100
Date: 2001-07-21T09:39:36+01:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3b593d22$1@pull.gecm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 5be89e2f.0107191355.534211d0@posting.google.com
Here's another link which you may find useful.
Apologies if this has been posted before.
http://www.adaic.com/docs/present/ajpo/pll-cost/html/
codesavvy <codesavvy@aol.com> wrote in message
news:5be89e2f.0107191355.534211d0@posting.google.com...
> I can't believe some of the posters in this thread. Again I said that
> Ada 95 has nothing to offer that is substantially better than C++. If
> there was then logically higher productivity would result. I can't
> believe that you have a difficult time grasping this concept. Some
> posters have been kind enough to provide me with anecdotal data and in
> one case a link to some data that Capers Jones has which I appreciate.
>
> Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) wrote in message
news:<X+JoNS25futh@eisner.encompasserve.org>...
> > In article <5be89e2f.0107181237.4ab3594@posting.google.com>,
codesavvy@aol.com (codesavvy) writes:
> > > "Marin David Condic" <marin.condic.auntie.spam@pacemicro.com> wrote in
message news:<9j46bt$3qj$1@nh.pace.co.uk>...
> > >> Well, if Ada has nothing to offer and this is obvious then why are
you
> > >> bothering to a) read this newsgroup and b) post to it at all?
> > >>
> > >
> > > Here is what I wrote:
> > >
> > > I think the answer is rather obvious, Ada has nothing to offer that is
> > > substantially better than what C++ offers.
> > >
> > > I didn't say that Ada had nothing to offer, just nothing that is
> > > substantially better than C++.
> > >
> > >> If you have a serious question about Ada and its potential benefits
and are
> > >> willing to entertain the possibility that maybe Ada *is* a better
choice
> > >> than C++, then we will be more than happy to point to resources for
you or
> > >> help you learn the language or answer questions about the language.
But a
> > >> blanket statement that seems to be saying "Ada is s**t! Why are you
guys
> > >> bothering???" seems more calculated to start a flame war than to get
a
> > >> serious question answered.
> > >>
> > >
> > > You must have missed my other post where I stated that Ada 95 is an
> > > excellent language and may actually be better than C++. However, I
> > > don't feel that developer productivity is significantly enhanced with
> > > Ada 95 as opposed to C++.
> >
> > You started with "nothing to offer", but seem to have devolved into
> > "no productivity advantage to offer". The reason I use Ada is not
> > productivity, but correctness.
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2001-07-17 16:38 Ada The Best Language? codesavvy
2001-07-17 17:16 ` chris.danx
2001-07-17 21:35 ` JP
2001-07-18 12:04 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-18 13:13 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2001-07-18 15:03 ` OO Zealotry horror stories (was Re: Ada the Best Language) Marc A. Criley
2001-07-17 17:53 ` Ada The Best Language? Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-17 18:01 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-18 2:10 ` codesavvy
2001-07-18 10:43 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-18 14:27 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-18 20:37 ` codesavvy
2001-07-18 21:11 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-19 21:45 ` codesavvy
2001-07-18 22:02 ` Ed Falis
2001-07-19 21:50 ` codesavvy
2001-07-18 23:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-19 21:55 ` codesavvy
2001-07-21 8:39 ` Martin Dowie [this message]
2001-07-22 14:18 ` John R. Strohm
2001-07-23 6:13 `
2001-07-23 11:16 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-07-23 12:27 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-24 2:07 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-20 4:12 ` Adrian Hoe
2001-07-18 17:26 ` Darren New
2001-07-18 18:03 ` Pascal Obry
2001-07-18 20:51 ` codesavvy
2001-07-18 21:03 ` David C. Hoos
2001-07-20 4:00 ` Adrian Hoe
2001-07-18 21:22 ` Darren New
2001-07-19 4:12 ` James Rogers
2001-07-19 8:59 ` Michal Nowak
2001-07-19 10:40 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-19 12:20 ` codesavvy
2001-07-21 18:20 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-07-22 3:55 ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-07-18 21:08 ` Tucker Taft
2001-07-17 20:12 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-07-17 21:15 ` Gerhard Häring
2001-07-17 21:38 ` Paul Storm
2001-07-18 2:03 ` Tomasz Wegrzanowski
2001-07-18 9:28 ` Gary Lisyansky
2001-07-18 10:42 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-18 2:40 ` Beau
2001-07-18 10:35 ` codesavvy
2001-07-18 11:27 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2001-07-18 18:28 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-07-18 21:00 ` codesavvy
2001-07-19 17:31 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-19 21:36 ` codesavvy
2001-07-24 3:22 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-25 0:11 ` David Bolen
2001-07-25 3:09 ` Recent Ada Information (was: zhttp://www.aceshardware.com/Spades/r Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-25 3:32 ` David Bolen
2001-07-25 4:53 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-25 10:50 ` Ada The Best Language? codesavvy
2001-07-25 16:04 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-25 21:49 ` codesavvy
2001-07-26 17:24 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-26 18:48 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-26 20:21 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-26 20:52 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-26 17:26 ` Pascal Obry
2001-07-25 19:39 ` tmoran
2001-07-27 0:35 ` David Bolen
2001-07-27 1:50 ` Gary Scott
2001-07-27 14:05 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-28 6:42 ` tmoran
2001-07-28 12:53 ` When correct software meets illegal data (was: Ada The Best...) Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-28 18:42 ` tmoran
2001-07-28 20:52 ` Al Christians
2001-07-28 21:42 ` tmoran
2001-07-30 1:53 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-28 5:32 ` Ada The Best Language? JM
2001-07-28 6:49 ` Gerhard Häring
2001-07-28 12:04 ` Matthew Woodcraft
2001-07-28 19:46 ` tmoran
2001-07-29 1:01 ` Gerhard Häring
2001-07-31 2:59 ` Tom Moran
2001-07-31 9:40 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-31 10:10 ` Preben Randhol
2001-07-26 13:22 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-20 11:20 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-20 12:56 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-20 13:18 ` Dmitry Kazakov
2001-07-20 17:27 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-20 18:14 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-20 19:10 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-20 20:12 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-20 20:48 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-23 11:09 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-07-20 19:38 ` David C. Hoos
2001-07-22 13:13 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-22 20:35 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2001-07-22 21:12 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-22 22:34 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2001-07-23 7:41 ` Dmitry Kazakov
2001-07-23 8:27 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-23 11:51 ` Dmitry Kazakov
2001-07-23 12:06 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-24 1:57 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-26 22:31 ` Larry Elmore
2001-07-24 14:08 ` Pat Rogers
2001-07-24 14:29 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-24 14:49 ` Pat Rogers
2001-07-24 1:51 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-18 18:29 ` codesavvy
2001-07-18 21:48 ` Hambut
2001-07-18 22:00 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-19 21:43 ` codesavvy
2001-07-19 7:45 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2001-07-18 11:55 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-18 15:49 ` Alfred Hilscher
2001-07-18 20:48 ` codesavvy
2001-07-18 22:12 ` Pascal Obry
2001-07-18 23:22 ` chris.danx
2001-07-20 11:26 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-20 12:11 ` chris.danx
2001-07-20 12:43 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-20 17:37 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-24 16:52 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-24 16:59 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-07-24 18:25 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-25 10:19 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-07-25 18:53 ` Teergrubing (was: Ada The Best Language?) Ted Dennison
2001-07-24 20:14 ` Ada The Best Language? Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-24 21:11 ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-24 22:52 ` tmoran
2001-07-25 7:08 ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-25 7:45 ` tmoran
2001-07-25 15:44 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-25 20:39 ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-26 17:13 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-26 21:08 ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-25 4:03 ` Tomasz Wegrzanowski
2001-07-24 17:23 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-20 12:14 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-07-20 12:32 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-20 12:39 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-07-20 13:28 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-20 14:19 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-07-20 15:39 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-20 15:47 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-07-20 16:55 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-23 11:05 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-07-23 19:42 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-07-19 10:43 ` Alfred Hilscher
2001-07-19 12:47 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-19 17:01 ` codesavvy
2001-07-21 12:53 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-23 19:26 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-07-18 15:05 ` McDoobie
2001-07-18 20:42 ` codesavvy
2001-07-21 15:38 ` Device drivers in Ada (was Re: Ada The Best Language?) Mark Lundquist
2001-07-21 19:09 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-21 15:31 ` Ada The Best Language? Mark Lundquist
2001-07-23 4:15 ` codesavvy
2001-07-23 7:26 ` Martin Dowie
2001-07-23 14:18 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-24 2:13 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
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2001-07-18 8:32 Vinzent Hoefler
2001-07-18 12:25 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-19 1:03 ` Mike Silva
2001-07-20 11:30 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-20 12:58 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-20 13:48 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-20 14:56 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-20 16:41 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-20 17:47 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-20 19:33 ` David C. Hoos
2001-07-20 17:19 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-20 18:18 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-08-06 8:13 ` stoog
2001-07-19 17:10 ` Tomasz Wegrzanowski
2001-07-20 13:31 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-07-20 16:46 ` Tomasz Wegrzanowski
2001-07-20 17:00 ` David C. Hoos
2001-08-04 6:04 ` David Thompson
2001-08-05 2:22 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-23 10:12 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-07-18 8:43 Vinzent Hoefler
2001-07-18 9:22 ` Gerhard Häring
2001-07-18 8:58 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-07-18 14:06 ` codesavvy
2001-07-18 15:27 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-18 20:31 ` codesavvy
2001-07-18 21:29 ` Darren New
2001-07-18 21:56 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-19 3:37 ` Larry Hazel
2001-07-19 18:19 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-21 15:33 ` Mark Lundquist
2001-07-23 13:50 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-24 4:52 ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-07-24 6:47 ` tmoran
2001-07-24 11:47 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-24 14:10 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-27 11:29 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2001-07-19 21:47 ` codesavvy
2001-07-21 2:51 ` DuckE
2001-07-21 3:46 ` Darren New
2001-07-26 1:39 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-07-19 13:12 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-19 17:11 ` codesavvy
2001-07-21 14:10 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-19 14:12 ` Leif Roar Moldskred
2001-07-19 16:58 ` codesavvy
2001-07-19 18:29 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-19 17:11 ` Tomasz Wegrzanowski
2001-07-19 18:33 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-19 20:49 ` Tomasz Wegrzanowski
2001-07-19 21:01 ` Darren New
2001-07-19 21:20 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-19 22:31 ` Tomasz Wegrzanowski
2001-07-19 23:04 ` Darren New
2001-07-19 23:36 ` Tomasz Wegrzanowski
2001-07-20 16:14 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-20 17:51 ` Darren New
2001-07-20 17:54 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-20 20:16 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-25 9:01 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2001-07-19 22:31 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-18 14:40 Re[2]: " ANH_VO
2001-07-26 1:53 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-07-19 0:15 Beard, Frank
2001-07-19 12:24 ` codesavvy
2001-07-19 5:42 Vinzent Hoefler
2001-07-19 6:32 Vinzent Hoefler
2001-07-19 6:35 Vinzent Hoefler
2001-07-19 11:34 Vinzent Hoefler
2001-07-19 15:24 ` Alfred Hilscher
2001-07-19 15:38 ` nicolas
2001-07-19 17:28 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-24 13:53 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2001-07-19 16:10 Vinzent Hoefler
2001-07-20 6:05 Vinzent Hoefler
2001-07-20 6:08 Vinzent Hoefler
2001-07-20 17:31 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-21 16:27 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2001-07-24 2:02 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-20 6:23 Vinzent Hoefler
2001-07-20 6:56 Vinzent Hoefler
2001-07-27 20:22 Beard, Frank
2001-07-27 21:28 ` Marin David Condic
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2001-07-27 22:46 Beard, Frank
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