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From: "Robert I. Eachus" <rieachus@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Thought this was funny
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:56:04 GMT
Date: 2003-10-22T03:56:04+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F95FF86.3040208@comcast.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: oprxe74gkx8wdn3j@news.verizon.net

Ed Falis wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:36:47 GMT, Robert I. Eachus 
> <rieachus@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Take that back!  I was making fun of ExtremeProgramming nutcases. ;-)

> Ah, but an Extreme Programming nutcase would have agreed with you, 
> saying "YAGNI!" (You Ain't Gonna' Need It!) when faced with that 
> construct.  He also would agree with your philosophy of developing your 
> unit tests as you design.  So, you must be careful, Grasshopper - you 
> might find yourself post-classified, like I have.

Come on, if they say YAGNI! they can't be XP nutcases.  The real 
nutcases would chastise you for not being prepared for fuzzy logic values:

if <boolean expression> >= Certainty
then
   ...
elsif <booolean expression> <= Unlikely
then
   ...
else -- uncertain cases.
   ...
end if;

That paragraph I wrote was an attempt to separate the Zen of XP, which 
is very good, from the nutcase version that tries to convert ethetics 
into moral laws.  Yes, there is a lot of good thinking in XP. However, I 
was recently looking at some books "how to" on XP in Barnes & Nobles 
that made me sick.  They tried to tell you what to do, not why you 
should do it, and to make absolutes out of what should be esthetic 
judgements.

I guess the charlatans have taken over XP as the latest fad.

Oh, and don't let anything I said about make you think I disagree with 
use of fuzzy logic in programming.  There are places where it is very 
useful.  But let's keep it where it belongs.  Please!

-- 
                                          Robert I. Eachus

"Quality is the Buddha. Quality is scientific reality. Quality is the 
goal of Art. It remains to work these concepts into a practical, 
down-to-earth context, and for this there is nothing more practical or 
down-to-earth than what I have been talking about all along...the repair 
of an old motorcycle."  -- from Zen and the Art of Motorcycle 
Maintenance by Robert Pirsig




  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-22  3:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-21 19:49 Thought this was funny Xenos
2003-10-21 20:26 ` Ching Bon Lam
2003-10-21 20:44   ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-10-21 20:36 ` Ed Falis
2003-10-21 21:08 ` Stephane Richard
2003-10-21 22:16   ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-21 22:24     ` Ed Falis
2003-10-22  0:36       ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-10-22  1:37         ` Ed Falis
2003-10-22  3:56           ` Robert I. Eachus [this message]
2003-10-22 13:44             ` Ed Falis
2003-10-21 23:13     ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-10-22  0:23     ` Alexandre E. Kopilovitch
2003-10-21 22:23   ` Simon Wright
2003-10-22  2:57 ` Steve
2003-10-22  6:26 ` Anders Wirzenius
2003-10-22  6:36 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-10-22 12:38   ` Christopher J. Henrich
2003-10-22 15:00 ` Martin Dowie
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-22  6:44 christoph.grein
2003-10-22  7:31 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-10-22  8:48   ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-10-23  2:17 ` Wes Groleau
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