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From: Marin David Condic <nobody@noplace.com>
Subject: Re: An Ada advocacy method
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 13:31:06 GMT
Date: 2003-08-30T13:31:06+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F50A70E.7050809@noplace.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: DUednelRa7Fwic2iXTWJig@gbronline.com

Well, I don't know everything about every software development kit on 
the planet, but I did use MSVC++ long enough to have seen that it had 
some really spiffy capabilities. I won't defend its overall quality, but 
I'd recommend that if someone wanted to build an Ada development kit 
that they buy MSVC++ and spend some time learning what it can do. I have 
*never* heard of any Ada development kit that out-of-the-box provides as 
many capabilities (although GPS looks like it has potential) and is as 
nicely integrated as MSVC++.

There might be other environments that exceed MSVC++ - like I said: I 
don't know about all IDEs in the universe. But it sure has a lot going 
for it that Ada would have to work to catch up with. (The MFC alone 
would be a *major* capability enhancement should Ada have something like 
it. And an Ada standard library would likely be far more capable since a 
large chunk of the MFC is devoted to fixing weaknesses in C++ that Ada 
doesn't have.) Most of the pieces are there - they just need to be 
brought together into a single package and made to work together. ACT 
stands a descent chance of doing this with GPS, GtkAda, gdb and maybe 
some other stuff. (Like a database? Certainly a library.) The thing is, 
I'd like to see Ada have *some* of these components/capabilities 
"Standard" across implementations.

MDC


Wes Groleau wrote:
> Marin David Condic wrote:
> 
>> (Wait a minute... Wes: Is this a troll? :-)
> 
> 
> Uh, could be ...
> 
> Hey, Mac fans!  How much of what Marin asked for
> is in the OS X Deb Kit plus GNAT ?
> 


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-08-30 13:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-28 23:48 An Ada advocacy method Wes Groleau
2003-08-29  1:25 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-29  2:25   ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-29  3:23   ` Wes Groleau
2003-08-29 12:33     ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-29 12:50       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-29 12:52       ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-29 13:23       ` Wes Groleau
2003-08-30  2:59         ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-30  3:08           ` Wes Groleau
2003-08-30  3:21             ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-08-30 13:31             ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2003-08-30 16:45               ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-31 13:43                 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-31 15:30                   ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-31 16:10                     ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-31 16:27                       ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-31 19:16                       ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-08-31  7:33               ` Martin Dowie
2003-08-31 15:59                 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-31 16:31                   ` Ed Falis
2003-09-01 14:23                     ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-01 19:06                       ` Wes Groleau
2003-09-02  1:10                         ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-02  1:59                           ` Online help (was: An Ada advocacy method) Wes Groleau
     [not found]                             ` <47i1jb.gk2.ln@skymaster>
2003-09-02 13:55                               ` Online help Wes Groleau
2003-09-02  7:47                           ` An Ada advocacy method Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-09-02 12:32                             ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-03  9:45                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-09-01  9:29                   ` Martin Dowie
2003-08-30  9:35           ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-29 17:02       ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-30  6:13         ` Adrian Hoe
2003-08-30  6:13       ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-30  6:10     ` Chad R. Meiners
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2003-08-29 13:36 Lionel.DRAGHI
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