From: Marin David Condic <nobody@noplace.com>
Subject: Re: An Ada advocacy method
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 02:59:35 GMT
Date: 2003-08-30T02:59:35+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F50130A.1070406@noplace.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: OZqdnYTCIq8gztKiU-KYgw@gbronline.com
Do they have an integrated GUI builder that makes the GUI part of the
project? (I think ObjectAda comes close at least) Do they have an
integrated debugger that works well with the Ada source? (maybe - sort
of) Do they have a database & interface to same? (probably not) Does it
all come in a single distribution that installs right out of the box
with all the pieces? (maybe in part) How about documentation that you
jump to when the compiler pukes or you need to know how to use a library
routine (I don't think so.) And bringing that up, what about a really
nice class library that does all sorts of standard-issue things for you?
(I can't see one on the horizon that can compete with what I've seen in
other languages) And is there some sort of prefabricated application
model that hooks the GUI and the library and your project all together &
generates code to do the connections for you? (Not even anywhere in sight.)
Having made use of MS Visual C++ and seen how spiffy that was in terms
of tightly integrated features, I'd hold that up as a standard against
which to measure. (Not for *quality* but at least for giving the
programmer a whole pile of well integrated things that enabled building
apps for the PC very rapidly - once you understood the model.) A program
bombs (as will happen a lot in C++) and you're right there in the
debugger - *plus* you could change the source and it automagically made
changes to the executing image and you could resume your run. And when
you got done building a GUI, it pretty much had the skeleton of whatever
you needed for callbacks done for you. Etc. etc. etc.
Hey Steph! You got another one of those paper towels??? I'm foaming again!!
(Wait a minute... Wes: Is this a troll? :-)
MDC
Wes Groleau wrote:
>
> Is EZ2LOAD defunct?
>
> How about the demo version of ObjectAda ?
>
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2003-08-28 23:48 An Ada advocacy method Wes Groleau
2003-08-29 1:25 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-29 2:25 ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-29 3:23 ` Wes Groleau
2003-08-29 12:33 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-29 12:50 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-29 12:52 ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-29 13:23 ` Wes Groleau
2003-08-30 2:59 ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2003-08-30 3:08 ` Wes Groleau
2003-08-30 3:21 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-08-30 13:31 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-30 16:45 ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-31 13:43 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-31 15:30 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-31 16:10 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-31 16:27 ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-31 19:16 ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-08-31 7:33 ` Martin Dowie
2003-08-31 15:59 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-31 16:31 ` Ed Falis
2003-09-01 14:23 ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-01 19:06 ` Wes Groleau
2003-09-02 1:10 ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-02 1:59 ` Online help (was: An Ada advocacy method) Wes Groleau
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2003-09-02 13:55 ` Online help Wes Groleau
2003-09-02 7:47 ` An Ada advocacy method Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-09-02 12:32 ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-03 9:45 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-09-01 9:29 ` Martin Dowie
2003-08-30 9:35 ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-29 17:02 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-30 6:13 ` Adrian Hoe
2003-08-30 6:13 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-30 6:10 ` Chad R. Meiners
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2003-08-29 13:36 Lionel.DRAGHI
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