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From: Marin David Condic <nobody@noplace.com>
Subject: Re: An Ada advocacy method
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 02:59:35 GMT
Date: 2003-08-30T02:59:35+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F50130A.1070406@noplace.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: OZqdnYTCIq8gztKiU-KYgw@gbronline.com

Do they have an integrated GUI builder that makes the GUI part of the 
project? (I think ObjectAda comes close at least) Do they have an 
integrated debugger that works well with the Ada source? (maybe - sort 
of) Do they have a database & interface to same? (probably not) Does it 
all come in a single distribution that installs right out of the box 
with all the pieces? (maybe in part) How about documentation that you 
jump to when the compiler pukes or you need to know how to use a library 
routine (I don't think so.) And bringing that up, what about a really 
nice class library that does all sorts of standard-issue things for you? 
(I can't see one on the horizon that can compete with what I've seen in 
other languages) And is there some sort of prefabricated application 
model that hooks the GUI and the library and your project all together & 
generates code to do the connections for you? (Not even anywhere in sight.)

Having made use of MS Visual C++ and seen how spiffy that was in terms 
of tightly integrated features, I'd hold that up as a standard against 
which to measure. (Not for *quality* but at least for giving the 
programmer a whole pile of well integrated things that enabled building 
apps for the PC very rapidly - once you understood the model.) A program 
bombs (as will happen a lot in C++) and you're right there in the 
debugger - *plus* you could change the source and it automagically made 
changes to the executing image and you could resume your run. And when 
you got done building a GUI, it pretty much had the skeleton of whatever 
you needed for callbacks done for you. Etc. etc. etc.

Hey Steph! You got another one of those paper towels??? I'm foaming again!!

(Wait a minute... Wes: Is this a troll? :-)

MDC



Wes Groleau wrote:
> 
> Is EZ2LOAD defunct?
> 
> How about the demo version of ObjectAda ?
> 


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  reply	other threads:[~2003-08-30  2:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-28 23:48 An Ada advocacy method Wes Groleau
2003-08-29  1:25 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-29  2:25   ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-29  3:23   ` Wes Groleau
2003-08-29 12:33     ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-29 12:50       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-29 12:52       ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-29 13:23       ` Wes Groleau
2003-08-30  2:59         ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2003-08-30  3:08           ` Wes Groleau
2003-08-30  3:21             ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-08-30 13:31             ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-30 16:45               ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-31 13:43                 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-31 15:30                   ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-31 16:10                     ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-31 16:27                       ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-31 19:16                       ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-08-31  7:33               ` Martin Dowie
2003-08-31 15:59                 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-31 16:31                   ` Ed Falis
2003-09-01 14:23                     ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-01 19:06                       ` Wes Groleau
2003-09-02  1:10                         ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-02  1:59                           ` Online help (was: An Ada advocacy method) Wes Groleau
     [not found]                             ` <47i1jb.gk2.ln@skymaster>
2003-09-02 13:55                               ` Online help Wes Groleau
2003-09-02  7:47                           ` An Ada advocacy method Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-09-02 12:32                             ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-03  9:45                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-09-01  9:29                   ` Martin Dowie
2003-08-30  9:35           ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-29 17:02       ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-30  6:13         ` Adrian Hoe
2003-08-30  6:13       ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-30  6:10     ` Chad R. Meiners
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2003-08-29 13:36 Lionel.DRAGHI
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