From: "Robert I. Eachus" <rieachus@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Nuclear Reactors & Blackout
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 17:10:37 GMT
Date: 2003-08-16T17:10:37+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F3E6586.1080702@attbi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: h-qdnYtw0OUhxKOiXTWJjg@gbronline.com
Wes Groleau wrote:
>
> Each section should disconnect from the grid
> if the grid threatens to demand from them
> more power than they can provide safely. If they
> are a net consumer, and the grid stops providing,
> they must shut down if their local demand would
> exceed capacity dangerously.
No that worked, and the grid fractured into multiple parts. I was just
looking at a map of the pieces. (Whoops! Actually for the 1965 blackout:
http://www.cmpco.com/about/system/blackout.html) Once that happened, as
you point out, areas that were net consumers of electricity--at the
moment when it happened were SOL. This probably did not apply to the
PJD interconnect (Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Maryland) because they
tend to keep most of Conowingo Dam on-line idling to deal with peaking
problems. There are probably other regional interconnects that do the
same. Conowingo only generates 512 Megawatts, but its generators are
significantly overbuilt by modern standards and can handle a short
overload in the multi-gigawatt range. It had to in the 1965 blackout.
Before the surges in the interconnects south of New York were balanced
out, Conowingo exceeded three gigawatts out AND two gigawatts in, but
each of those peaks was on the order of three or four cycles (1/15th to
1/20th of a second).
Here is a half decent story on what happened.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A63438-2003Aug15?language=printer
The current thinking is that the trigger was a plant in Michigan. But
the important point is that the Lake Erie loop can act as an amplifier
for transients when heavily loaded. (Power normally flows east both
north and south of the lake. But transients cause phase shifts, and if
the shifts north and south of the lake are out of synchronization, a lot
of power flows in a circle. During the blackout, it flowed first one
way, then reversed direction...
--
"As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure." -- Jacques Chirac,
President of France
"As far as France is concerned, you're right." -- Rush Limbaugh
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Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-08-15 21:59 Nuclear Reactors & Blackout Robert C. Leif
2003-08-16 1:26 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-08-16 5:35 ` John R. Strohm
2003-08-17 1:58 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-08-16 9:20 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-16 16:21 ` Wes Groleau
2003-08-16 17:10 ` Robert I. Eachus [this message]
2003-08-16 14:10 ` Dmytry Lavrov
2003-08-16 14:26 ` Ludovic Brenta
2003-08-17 12:21 ` Dmytry Lavrov
2003-08-20 20:45 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-16 17:57 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-08-17 7:23 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-17 19:04 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-08-18 14:42 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-18 22:36 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-08-22 3:15 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-16 15:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-17 2:30 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
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2003-08-22 11:02 Lionel.DRAGHI
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