From: Marin David Condic <nobody@noplace.com>
Subject: Re: Realtime/embedded project to help with employment.
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 08:59:53 -0400
Date: 2003-08-13T13:00:08+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F3A3649.4010606@noplace.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: slrnbjhvtr.357.randhol+abuse@kiuk0152.chembio.ntnu.no
Probably, more accurately, they were not "defrauded" of anything. They
voluntarily gave up rights to something that had potential value. When
the actual value was realized (and who is going to dispute that there is
"value" in Linux?) they were out in the cold by their own doing. Nobody
put a gun to their head and made them do it. If they were "defrauded" at
all, it was possibly in being "seduced" by the anti-capitalist rhetoric
that occasionally surrounds the GPL and its more ardent adherents.
MDC
Preben Randhol wrote:
> rleif wrote:
>
>>This is the typical argument for GPL, which I totally reject. By any
>>economic standard, the developers were defrauded of the fruits of their
>>labor.
>
>
> No, just that the fruits /= money.
>
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2003-08-02 10:06 Realtime/embedded project to help with employment Luke A. Guest
2003-08-06 0:35 ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-06 12:00 ` Phil Thornley
2003-08-06 12:15 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-07 18:38 ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-08 11:51 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-08 21:02 ` rleif
2003-08-09 14:00 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-09 15:53 ` Michael Erdmann
2003-08-10 5:01 ` rleif
2003-08-10 7:10 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-10 16:35 ` rleif
2003-08-10 17:53 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-12 16:14 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2003-08-12 18:12 ` Ed Falis
2003-08-10 22:45 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-08-12 14:55 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-13 12:59 ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2003-08-13 13:46 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-13 14:50 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-13 17:02 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-12 14:59 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-12 15:05 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-08-12 15:16 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-12 16:08 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-08-12 17:35 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-13 7:33 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-08-13 7:45 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-13 10:13 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-08-13 11:00 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-13 11:48 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-08-13 12:12 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-13 11:32 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-12 16:17 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2003-08-13 3:58 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-08-19 13:54 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2003-08-10 17:04 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-11 14:20 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-12 12:34 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-12 13:48 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-13 3:58 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-08-13 7:14 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-13 13:24 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-13 13:54 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-15 0:19 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-08-15 8:35 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-15 14:26 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-15 14:37 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-15 16:14 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-16 10:02 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-16 18:07 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-18 6:38 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-18 13:34 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-18 15:43 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-18 18:36 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-18 20:30 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-18 21:32 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-18 19:04 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-18 19:28 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-19 6:29 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-19 20:48 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-16 13:57 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-16 18:18 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-16 18:33 ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-17 12:52 ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-17 13:20 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-08-18 6:41 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-17 23:03 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-18 1:51 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-13 11:14 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-08-13 12:49 ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-08-13 23:34 ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-13 12:34 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-13 13:10 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-13 13:30 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-13 13:47 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-14 12:32 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-14 13:56 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-15 12:22 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-17 7:47 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-13 13:55 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-08-14 12:40 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-18 11:10 ` Dale Stanbrough
2003-08-13 14:40 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-13 16:49 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-14 13:01 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-14 16:46 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-15 4:22 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-08-15 9:48 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-15 21:59 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-08-16 1:36 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-17 11:30 ` Simon Wright
2003-08-17 12:08 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-17 12:30 ` Jeffrey Creem
2003-08-16 1:58 ` George Shapovalov
2003-08-16 10:08 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-16 11:50 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-16 12:04 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-16 18:25 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-18 6:46 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-18 13:48 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-16 13:31 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-17 14:27 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-17 23:40 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-18 2:00 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-18 12:04 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-17 8:26 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-17 19:04 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-08-15 12:40 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-16 22:32 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-17 12:22 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-17 23:34 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-14 12:52 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-14 14:03 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-12 14:52 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-13 12:41 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-13 13:32 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-12 22:15 ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-13 1:04 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-13 2:08 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-08-13 12:54 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-13 13:36 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-13 16:52 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-13 7:11 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-13 22:26 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-14 2:19 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-08-14 6:54 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-14 15:03 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-15 0:46 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-08-15 8:22 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-15 16:21 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-16 10:04 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-14 8:27 ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-14 9:58 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-14 13:22 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-14 14:11 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-14 17:46 ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-15 8:29 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-15 18:56 ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-16 10:06 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-13 7:08 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-13 12:49 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-13 16:54 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-13 17:20 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-13 22:06 ` Dale Stanbrough
2003-08-13 23:40 ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-14 6:49 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-14 13:11 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-14 14:06 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-14 20:35 ` Pascal Obry
2003-08-15 12:51 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-15 13:40 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-16 10:33 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-14 16:51 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-15 12:58 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-16 22:46 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-14 3:19 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-08-14 12:00 ` Dmytry Lavrov
2003-08-14 13:29 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-14 13:08 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-14 16:58 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-14 17:47 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-14 19:15 ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-15 8:26 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-15 13:04 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-15 13:57 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-16 22:49 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-17 14:07 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-17 23:45 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-15 16:13 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-16 2:27 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-08-16 10:02 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-16 10:01 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-16 11:03 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-16 11:39 ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-13 12:12 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-13 13:15 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-13 13:52 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-14 13:15 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-14 14:11 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-15 13:11 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-15 14:04 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-16 11:23 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-13 18:14 ` Georg B.
2003-08-14 13:25 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-15 9:35 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-15 13:17 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-15 14:50 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-14 17:05 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-15 8:44 ` ADCLing (was: Re: Realtime/embedded project to help with employment.) Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-15 8:48 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-15 13:19 ` Realtime/embedded project to help with employment Marin David Condic
2003-08-15 14:12 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-16 11:43 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-16 11:59 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-16 14:55 ` Ludovic Brenta
2003-08-16 23:34 ` Software Patent Concerns => New Black Markets? Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-17 19:04 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-08-17 23:03 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-18 7:20 ` Ludovic Brenta
2003-08-18 14:25 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-08-18 14:38 ` chris
2003-08-19 10:36 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-19 11:32 ` Wojtek Narczynski
2003-08-18 18:31 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-08-18 19:04 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-18 19:36 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-19 6:58 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-19 15:06 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-08-19 17:00 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-20 10:55 ` Wojtek Narczynski
2003-08-20 12:49 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2003-08-20 19:16 ` Dmytry Lavrov
2003-08-21 8:12 ` Wojtek Narczynski
2003-08-21 17:47 ` Dmytry Lavrov
2003-08-21 17:53 ` Dmytry Lavrov
2003-08-19 13:45 ` Wojtek Narczynski
2003-08-19 14:43 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-19 17:48 ` Wojtek Narczynski
2003-08-19 20:47 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-08-20 4:16 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-20 22:45 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-21 4:08 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-19 10:28 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-19 12:01 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-08-19 16:53 ` Software Patent Concerns => (FSF is Robin Hood?) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-19 17:16 ` Software Patent Concerns => New Black Markets? Ed Falis
2003-08-20 22:27 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-21 23:02 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-08-19 17:54 ` Patent Guy
2003-08-20 1:34 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-20 3:35 ` Wes Groleau
2003-08-20 6:08 ` Patent Guy
2003-08-20 16:59 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-20 21:37 ` Patent Guy
2003-08-20 22:10 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-21 20:22 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-22 9:36 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-22 17:19 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-20 22:32 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-08-19 11:19 ` Wojtek Narczynski
2003-08-17 14:13 ` Realtime/embedded project to help with employment Marin David Condic
2003-08-15 14:53 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-15 19:17 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-16 10:08 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-16 17:40 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-18 6:35 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-18 16:37 ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-08-18 20:32 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-18 20:47 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-19 16:02 ` John R. Strohm
2003-08-16 23:23 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-13 19:03 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-10 17:26 ` Michael Erdmann
2003-08-10 11:17 ` Mário Amado Alves
2003-08-10 16:50 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-10 17:20 ` Michael Erdmann
2003-08-13 14:21 ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-13 16:36 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
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