From: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" <ve3wwg@cogeco.ca>
Subject: Re: ISO/IEC 14519 - Ada POSIX binding
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:09:18 -0400
Date: 2003-06-20T15:09:18-04:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3EF35BDE.7000800@cogeco.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: msIIa.54261$sm5.60390@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net
tmoran@acm.org wrote:
>>But there _are_ problems WRT Ada. The first that comes to mind is
>>the whole error handling approach. POSIX likes the idea of an errno
>>value with errno codes. The Ada approach often uses exceptions, and
>
> I have the paper version of IEEE 1003.5-1992 which specifically has a
> discussion of why that Ada binding to POSIX uses exception handling
> instead of errno. ISO/IEC 14519 appears to be a successor, covering more
> ground (eg sockets). The Ada binding is thick in the sense of using
> exceptions, strong typing, generics, tasking, etc, but it's still pretty
> "close to the hardware". It also was designed pre-Ada95. In designing
> CLAW, we studied the 1003.5-1992 book, but in many cases went for a higher
> abstraction level. For instance, claw sockets need merely Open, Write,
> Close (Close is optional, actually, thanks to Finalization) with lots of
> stuff, like the multiple states a socket can be in, happening "under the
> hood". There are projects that need the detailed level of control, and
> there are projects that will be implemented faster with the simplified
> interface. I don't think a one-size-fits-all standard socket binding
> would be adequate.
The point of a standardized package is not necessarily to have
"one-size-fits-all", though that might be one goal, if it were
possible. Ada.Text_IO is certainly not "one-size-fits-all" for
text I/O, but yet, it works sufficiently well for a large majority
of the cases required for applications. I think many people would
be happy to achieve something similar for network programming.
--
Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
http://home.cogeco.ca/~ve3wwg
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Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-06-19 21:43 ISO/IEC 14519 - Ada POSIX binding Mark Lorenzen
2003-06-19 21:29 ` tmoran
2003-06-28 23:48 ` Richard Riehle
2003-06-20 11:57 ` Marin David Condic
2003-06-20 14:08 ` Ludovic Brenta
2003-06-20 16:39 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-20 18:33 ` tmoran
2003-06-20 19:09 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG [this message]
2003-06-21 19:14 ` Florian Weimer
2003-06-21 19:42 ` tmoran
2003-06-21 21:04 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-29 15:05 ` Florian Weimer
2003-06-20 19:24 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-06-20 20:49 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-20 20:49 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-20 23:05 ` Mark Lorenzen
2003-06-21 1:49 ` David Emery
2003-06-21 19:19 ` Florian Weimer
2003-06-21 21:47 ` David Emery
2003-06-21 22:22 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-06-23 16:13 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-23 22:41 ` Berend de Boer
2003-06-24 9:52 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-06-24 20:43 ` Berend de Boer
2003-06-25 9:02 ` Pascal Obry
2003-06-25 9:46 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-06-25 21:19 ` Berend de Boer
2003-06-21 13:01 ` Pascal Obry
2003-06-21 12:11 ` Marin David Condic
2003-06-21 12:44 ` Ludovic Brenta
2003-06-21 13:03 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-06-21 22:28 ` Ludovic Brenta
2003-06-22 3:45 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-06-22 8:47 ` Mark Lorenzen
2003-06-23 16:36 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-24 11:46 ` Marin David Condic
2003-06-21 19:09 ` Florian Weimer
2003-06-21 22:38 ` Mark Lorenzen
2003-06-21 22:51 ` Ludovic Brenta
2003-06-23 16:54 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-24 11:49 ` Marin David Condic
2003-06-24 13:31 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-23 16:46 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-23 22:43 ` Berend de Boer
2003-06-29 15:10 ` Florian Weimer
2003-06-29 20:58 ` David Emery
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