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From: "Robert I. Eachus" <rieachus@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Ideas for Ada 200X
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 04:40:47 GMT
Date: 2003-06-05T04:40:47+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3EDEC9A7.9050602@attbi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: bebbba07.0306031420.69c20f71@posting.google.com

Russ wrote:

> In any case, the performance hit taken to keep A unchanged when a
> Constraint_Error is raised seems rather expensive to me. If it were up
> to me, I would take the factor of four better efficiency over
> preserving A in the rare case of an overflow. And I'll bet most
> programmers doing heavy-duty number crunching for simulation would
> too.

You are mixing up two things here that should be kept separate.  There 
are Ada rule for predefined "+" operators which make a lot of sense in 
those cases.  The effect of other Ada rules is that compilers can't go 
behind the programmers back and change a user defined "+" function to 
break what the programmer has written and expects.  However it is 
actually easier to define a two parameter Add procedure and use it to 
add in place--if that is what you want to do.  Appended is an Ada 
program that runs eight test cases Integer vs. Float, "+" vs. Add, and 
constraint checking on vs. all checks suppressed.  As you can see, in 
this particular case, suppressing checks is a win for Integer, a lose 
for Float.  This is fairly typical.  (If you compile with GNAT remember 
to invoke gnatmake with -gnato, to enable integer constraint checking. 
Of course, the program should let you know if you forgot.)

E:\Ada\Test\New Folder>test_matrix_add
test_matrix_add
  Initialize Generators.
  Initialize Integer Matricies.
  Initialize Float Matrices.
  Initialization Completed.
  Integer "+" operator, checks on,  required 320.349 milliseconds.
  Integer Add operator, checks on,  required 221.992 milliseconds.
  Integer "+" operator, checks off, required 262.464 milliseconds.
  Integer Add operator, checks off, required 170.612 milliseconds.
  Float "+" operator,   checks on,  required 222.519 milliseconds.
  Float Add operator,   checks on,  required 150.401 milliseconds.
  Float "+" operator,   checks off, required 222.297 milliseconds.
  Float Add operator,   checks off, required 171.129 milliseconds.
  All Done.

> I know that Ada is preferable for safety-critical applications, but
> based on what you are telling me, it sure seems to be a poor choice
> for non-safety-critical simulation with heavy number crunching. Thanks
> for clarifying that. I guess C++ is good for something after all, eh?

No, what we are telling you is that in Ada, you have a choice.  If you 
choose safety, the rules are very carefully designed so you get it.  If 
you want to trade safety for speed, Ada lets you do that. Most of the 
Ada safety you get "for free."  There are some areas where you have to 
intelligently decide whether or not you are willing to pay for it.  And 
remember the case here where Float is faster with checks on.  That is 
not all that uncommon.  This is why, if you are going to Suppress 
checks, you should always test to see if there is a benefit.

Cut at line and compile.  One source file.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
with Ada.Text_IO; use Ada.Text_IO;
with Ada.Calendar; use Ada.Calendar;
with Ada.Numerics.Discrete_Random;
with Ada.Numerics.Float_Random;
procedure Test_Matrix_Add is
   type Matrix is array (1..1000,1..1000) of Integer;
   type Acc_Matrix is access all Matrix;

   type Float_Matrix is array (1..1000,1..1000) of Float;
   type Acc_Float is access all Float_Matrix;

   A, B, C : Acc_Matrix := new Matrix;
   D, E, F : Acc_Float := new Float_Matrix;

   subtype Int is Integer range -100_000_000..100_000_000;
   package Int_Random is new Ada.Numerics.Discrete_Random(Int);
   Int_Gen: Int_Random.Generator;
   package Float_Random renames Ada.Numerics.Float_Random;
   Float_Gen: Float_Random.Generator;
   package Clock_IO is new Ada.Text_IO.Fixed_IO(Duration);
   Start, Stop: Ada.Calendar.Time;

   procedure Init_Matrix(M: in out Matrix) is
   begin
     for I in M'Range(1) loop
       for J in M'Range(2) loop
           M(I,J) := Int_Random.Random(Int_Gen);
       end loop;
     end loop;
   end Init_Matrix;

   procedure Init_Float(M: in out Float_Matrix) is
   begin
     for I in M'Range(1) loop
       for J in M'Range(2) loop
           M(I,J) := Float_Random.Random(Float_Gen);
       end loop;
     end loop;
   end Init_Float;

begin
   Put_Line(" Initialize Generators.");
   Int_Random.Reset(Int_Gen);
   Float_Random.Reset(Float_Gen);

   Put_Line(" Initialize Integer Matricies.");
   Init_Matrix(A.all);
   Init_Matrix(B.all);
   C.all := A.all;
   Put_Line(" Initialize Float Matrices.");
   Init_Float(D.all);
   Init_Float(E.all);
   F.all := D.all;
   Put_Line(" Initialization Completed.");

   declare

     function "+" (Left, Right: Matrix) return Matrix is
       Temp: Matrix := Left;
     begin
       for I in Temp'Range(1) loop
         for J in Temp'Range(2) loop
           Temp(I,J) := Temp(I,J) + Right(I,J);
         end loop;
       end loop;
       return Temp;
     end "+";

     procedure Add (Left: in out Matrix; Right: Matrix) is
     begin
       for I in Left'Range(1) loop
         for J in Left'Range(2) loop
           Left(I,J) := Left(I,J) + Right(I,J);
         end loop;
       end loop;
       return;
     end Add;

   begin

     Start := Clock;
     A.all := A.all + B.all;
     Stop := Clock;
     Put(" Integer ""+"" operator, checks on,  required ");
     Clock_IO.Put(1000*(Stop-Start), 2, 3); -- overflow to get natural 
alignment.
     Put_Line(" milliseconds.");
     Start := Clock;
     Add(C.all,B.all);
     Stop := Clock;
     Put(" Integer Add operator, checks on,  required ");
     Clock_IO.Put(1000*(Stop-Start), 2, 3); -- overflow to get natural 
alignment.
     Put_Line(" milliseconds.");
   Int_Check:
     for K in A'Range(1) loop
       for L in A'Range(2) loop
         if A(K,L) /= C(K,L)
         then
           Put_Line(" Integer results do not match.");
           exit Int_Check;
         end if;
       end loop;
     end loop Int_Check;

   end; -- declare Block Integer Checks on

   declare

     function "+" (Left, Right: Matrix) return Matrix is
       pragma Suppress(All_Checks);
       Temp: Matrix := Left;
     begin
       for I in Temp'Range(1) loop
         for J in Temp'Range(2) loop
           Temp(I,J) := Temp(I,J) + Right(I,J);
         end loop;
       end loop;
       return Temp;
     end "+";

     procedure Add (Left: in out Matrix; Right: Matrix) is
       pragma Suppress(All_Checks);
     begin
       for I in Left'Range(1) loop
         for J in Left'Range(2) loop
           Left(I,J) := Left(I,J) + Right(I,J);
         end loop;
       end loop;
       return;
     end Add;

   begin

     Start := Clock;
     A.all := A.all + B.all;
     Stop := Clock;
     Put(" Integer ""+"" operator, checks off, required ");
     Clock_IO.Put(1000*(Stop-Start), 2, 3); -- overflow to get natural 
alignment.
     Put_Line(" milliseconds.");
     Start := Clock;
     Add(C.all,B.all);
     Stop := Clock;
     Put(" Integer Add operator, checks off, required ");
     Clock_IO.Put(1000*(Stop-Start), 2, 3); -- overflow to get natural 
alignment.
     Put_Line(" milliseconds.");
   Int_Check2:
     for K in A'Range(1) loop
       for L in A'Range(2) loop
         if A(K,L) /= C(K,L)
         then
           Put_Line(" Integer results do not match.");
           exit Int_Check2;
         end if;
       end loop;
     end loop Int_Check2;

   end; -- declare block integer, checks off


   declare

     function "+" (Left, Right: Float_Matrix) return Float_Matrix is
       Temp: Float_Matrix := Left;
     begin
       for I in Temp'Range(1) loop
         for J in Temp'Range(2) loop
           Temp(I,J) := Temp(I,J) + Right(I,J);
         end loop;
       end loop;
       return Temp;
     end "+";

     procedure Add (Left: in out Float_Matrix; Right: Float_Matrix) is
     begin
       for I in Left'Range(1) loop
         for J in Left'Range(2) loop
           Left(I,J) := Left(I,J) + Right(I,J);
         end loop;
       end loop;
       return;
     end Add;

   begin

     Start := Clock;
     D.all := D.all + E.all;
     Stop := Clock;
     Put(" Float ""+"" operator,   checks on,  required ");
     Clock_IO.Put(1000*(Stop-Start), 2, 3); -- overflow to get natural 
alignment.
     Put_Line(" milliseconds.");
     Start := Clock;
     Add(F.all,E.all);
     Stop := Clock;
     Put(" Float Add operator,   checks on,  required ");
     Clock_IO.Put(1000*(Stop-Start), 2, 3); -- overflow to get natural 
alignment.
     Put_Line(" milliseconds.");

   Float_Check:
     for K in D'Range(1) loop
       for L in D'Range(2) loop
         if abs(D(K,L)-F(K,L)) > Float'Epsilon
         then
           Put_Line("Float result differences greater than Float'Epsilon.");
           exit Float_Check;
         end if;
       end loop;
     end loop Float_Check;

   end; -- declare block, Float, checks on

   declare

     function "+" (Left, Right: Float_Matrix) return Float_Matrix is
       pragma Suppress(All_Checks);
       Temp: Float_Matrix := Left;
     begin
       for I in Temp'Range(1) loop
         for J in Temp'Range(2) loop
           Temp(I,J) := Temp(I,J) + Right(I,J);
         end loop;
       end loop;
       return Temp;
     end "+";

     procedure Add (Left: in out Float_Matrix; Right: Float_Matrix) is
       pragma Suppress(All_Checks);
     begin
       for I in Left'Range(1) loop
         for J in Left'Range(2) loop
           Left(I,J) := Left(I,J) + Right(I,J);
         end loop;
       end loop;
       return;
     end Add;

   begin

     Start := Clock;
     D.all := D.all + E.all;
     Stop := Clock;
     Put(" Float ""+"" operator,   checks off, required ");
     Clock_IO.Put(1000*(Stop-Start), 2, 3); -- overflow to get natural 
alignment.
     Put_Line(" milliseconds.");
     Start := Clock;
     Add(F.all,E.all);
     Stop := Clock;
     Put(" Float Add operator,   checks off, required ");
     Clock_IO.Put(1000*(Stop-Start), 2, 3); -- overflow to get natural 
alignment.
     Put_Line(" milliseconds.");

   Float_Check2:
     for K in D'Range(1) loop
       for L in D'Range(2) loop
         if abs(D(K,L)-F(K,L)) > Float'Epsilon
         then
           Put_Line("Float result differences greater than Float'Epsilon.");
           exit Float_Check2;
         end if;
       end loop;
     end loop Float_Check2;

   end; -- declare block; Float checks off.

   Put_Line(" All Done.");

end Test_Matrix_Add;





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2003-05-27  7:44 Ideas for Ada 200X Tony Gair
2003-05-27 13:56 ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-27 15:09   ` chris.danx
2003-05-28 12:19     ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-28 14:31       ` Mark Lorenzen
2003-05-28 13:35         ` Mirko Aigner
2003-05-28 14:37       ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-05-28 17:01         ` Ideas for Ada 200X (Ada.Sockets) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-28 17:43           ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-05-28 18:09             ` Jano
2003-05-28 19:24               ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-05-28 19:02             ` chris.danx
2003-05-28 21:20               ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-29 15:45                 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-05-29 16:53                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-30  9:42                     ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-05-30 17:17                       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-30 18:52                         ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-30 20:52                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-31  6:12                             ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-05-30 21:32                         ` Simon Wright
2003-06-02 21:01                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-04 21:30                             ` Simon Wright
2003-05-31  6:05                         ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-06-01 20:54                           ` Ideas for Ada 200X (Ada.Sockets, enlightened) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-02  7:45                             ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-06-02 17:02                               ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-29 17:08                   ` Ideas for Ada 200X (Ada.Sockets) tmoran
2003-05-30  9:47                     ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-05-30  0:23                   ` Ideas for Ada 200X (CONSOLE_IO) Richard Riehle
2003-05-30  9:46                     ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-05-30  7:39                   ` Ideas for Ada 200X (Ada.Sockets) Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-06-02  8:32                 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-02 14:00                   ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-03  8:11                     ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-05-28 19:56             ` Martin Dowie
2003-05-28 21:04             ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-28 23:05               ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-29 15:47               ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-05-29 16:42                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-30  9:57                   ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-05-30 17:25                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-29 15:16             ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-05-28 17:53         ` Ideas for Ada 200X Marin David Condic
2003-05-29 15:52           ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-05-30 12:17             ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-30 17:34               ` Ideas for Ada 200X (GNAT.IO_Aux.Get_Line) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-31 18:43                 ` Richard Riehle
2003-06-01 19:38                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-03  0:20                     ` Randy Brukardt
2003-05-28 15:57       ` Ideas for Ada 200X Robert C. Leif
2003-05-28 19:06         ` chris.danx
2003-05-30  0:39       ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-30  6:49         ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-30 15:15           ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-30 12:30         ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-30 13:29           ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-05-30 15:24             ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-30 16:02               ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-05-30 21:15                 ` Simon Wright
2003-05-30 17:26               ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-30 19:17                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-05-30 20:40                   ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-31  3:37                 ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-30 21:10           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-31  3:51             ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-31 12:15               ` Dale Stanbrough
2003-05-31 12:49                 ` Marin David Condic
2003-05-31 13:27               ` Simon Wright
2003-05-31 22:09                 ` Marin David Condic
2003-06-01  3:09                   ` Robert C. Leif
2003-06-01  9:19                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-06-01 20:39                       ` Robert C. Leif
2003-06-02  5:13                   ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-02 12:15                     ` Marin David Condic
2003-06-02 18:46                       ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-02 17:31               ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-09-12 12:20               ` How to get a »Conventional Ada Library« (Was: Ideas for Ada 200X) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2003-09-12 12:52                 ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-12 13:07                 ` How to get a �Conventional Ada Library� " Martin Dowie
2003-09-13 12:41                   ` How to get a »Conventional Ada Library« " Marin David Condic
2003-09-12 17:43                 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-09-13  8:37                   ` Mário Amado Alves
2003-09-13 13:08                   ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-13 20:48                     ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-09-14 20:05                       ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-18 16:22                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-09-19 12:22                       ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-19 16:25                         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-09-20  2:57                           ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-26  0:13                       ` Matthew Heaney
2003-09-26 13:11                         ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-27  1:06                           ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-09-27 14:59                             ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-27 23:31                               ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-09-28 14:55                                 ` Marin David Condic
2003-09-28 17:56                                   ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-09-29 22:14                                     ` Marin David Condic
2003-06-02  4:51             ` Ideas for Ada 200X Robert C. Leif
2003-05-30 19:43       ` chris.danx
2003-05-28  3:38 ` Frank
2003-05-27 18:53   ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-28 17:02     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-27 20:38   ` Gautier Write-only
2003-05-28 10:12     ` domin
2003-05-28 10:17       ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-05-28 10:51       ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-29  3:02       ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-29 18:51         ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-30  6:46           ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-31 18:59           ` Richard Riehle
2003-06-02  8:54             ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-06-03  5:59               ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-28 10:17     ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-05-28 10:30       ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-05-28 10:51         ` Ian Wild
2003-05-28 11:19           ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-05-28 21:34             ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-29 20:56               ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-02 11:00               ` Ian Wild
2003-05-28 17:35     ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-05-31 18:46     ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-27 20:43   ` Martin Dowie
2003-05-28  0:25   ` Robert C. Leif
2003-05-28 10:54     ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-05-28 16:03       ` Robert C. Leif
2003-05-28  1:38   ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-05-28  8:04     ` Stuart Palin
2003-05-28  8:06       ` Stuart Palin
2003-05-28  9:44         ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-05-28 13:27           ` Stephen Leake
2003-05-28 15:38             ` Stuart Palin
2003-05-28 17:38         ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-05-28 17:08           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-28 17:38             ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-28 18:30               ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-05-28 18:54                 ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-28 20:01                   ` Martin Dowie
2003-05-29  0:14               ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-29  2:53               ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-29 18:49                 ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-30  2:38                   ` Mark A. Biggar
2003-05-30 12:55                     ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-30 13:27                       ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-05-29  9:17               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-30 10:19                 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-05-30 10:36                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-05-30 10:43                     ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-05-30 13:04                       ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-31 10:17                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-28 18:50             ` Pascal Obry
2003-05-29 12:40             ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-05-29 20:59               ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-30  6:40             ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-29  2:59           ` Steve
2003-05-29 21:01             ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-30  7:26             ` Russ
2003-05-30 16:23               ` Stephen Leake
2003-05-30 17:13                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-06-02  9:30                   ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-06-02 11:28                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-06-02 13:45                     ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-02 13:57                       ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-02 14:25                         ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-02 14:55                           ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-02 15:46                       ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-05-31  0:49                 ` Russ
2003-05-31  6:45                   ` Pascal Obry
2003-05-31 10:25                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-31 11:42                       ` Pascal Obry
2003-05-31 13:42                         ` Bill Findlay
2003-05-31 13:59                           ` Bill Findlay
2003-05-31 15:31                           ` John R. Strohm
2003-05-31 16:04                             ` Bill Findlay
2003-05-31 19:18                               ` John R. Strohm
2003-05-31 22:50                                 ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-01  0:15                                   ` John R. Strohm
2003-06-01  1:13                                     ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-02  5:20                             ` [off-topic] format request Wesley Groleau
2003-06-02  6:56                               ` John R. Strohm
2003-06-02 18:51                                 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-03  0:42                                   ` John R. Strohm
2003-06-02  6:59                               ` John R. Strohm
2003-05-31 17:18                           ` Ideas for Ada 200X Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-31 18:23                             ` Bill Findlay
2003-05-31 22:09                               ` Bill Findlay
2003-05-31 20:08                           ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-31 21:38                             ` John R. Strohm
2003-05-31 23:14                               ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-31 23:51                               ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-31 19:05                     ` Richard Riehle
2003-05-31 23:13                       ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-02  9:36                         ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-06-02 11:06                           ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-31  9:27                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-31 13:42                   ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-02 16:29                   ` Stephen Leake
2003-06-02 17:58                     ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-02 19:11                       ` Stephen Leake
2003-06-02 21:58                         ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-03 15:40                           ` Word origins Stephen Leake
2003-06-03 15:51                             ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-04  7:38                               ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-04  7:38                             ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-16 21:38                           ` Ideas for Ada 200X Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-03  2:59                     ` Steve
2003-05-30 17:18               ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-30 17:41                 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-30 18:47                   ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-31 18:49                 ` Russ
2003-06-02  5:27                   ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-03  5:27                     ` Russ
2003-06-03  7:36                       ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2003-06-03 19:01                         ` Russ
2003-06-03 21:03                           ` tmoran
2003-06-04  2:25                             ` Russ
2003-06-04  1:18                           ` tmoran
2003-06-04 10:10                             ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-04 13:33                               ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-04 14:21                                 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-04 20:04                                   ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-05  7:55                                     ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-04 13:43                               ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-04 14:50                                 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-04 18:10                               ` tmoran
2003-06-05  7:41                                 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-04 10:16                             ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-04  8:37                           ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2003-06-03  8:09                       ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-03 17:58                         ` Russ
2003-06-05  2:18                           ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-05  8:32                             ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2003-06-03 11:30                       ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-03 11:32                         ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-06-03 11:46                           ` Marin David Condic
2003-06-03 12:13                             ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-06-03 12:32                               ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-03 12:37                                 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-06-03 12:50                                   ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-03 13:20                                     ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-06-03 14:13                                       ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-03 14:22                                       ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-03 14:25                                       ` Adrian Knoth
2003-06-03 14:22                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-06-03 14:37                                     ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-03 16:33                                       ` Robert A Duff
2003-06-03 16:43                                         ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-03 12:06                           ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-03 12:23                             ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-06-03 13:36                               ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-03 16:44                                 ` Robert A Duff
2003-06-03 17:01                                   ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-03 18:47                                   ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-03 19:18                                     ` Robert A Duff
2003-06-03 19:39                                 ` Russ
2003-06-03 20:49                                   ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-03 13:15                             ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-03 12:37                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-06-03 15:26                       ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-03 22:20                         ` Russ
2003-06-03 22:44                           ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-04  2:37                             ` Russ
2003-06-04  9:16                               ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-04 10:21                               ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-04 12:51                               ` Robert A Duff
2003-06-05  6:06                                 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-04 16:59                               ` Stephen Leake
2003-06-04 22:38                                 ` Russ
2003-06-05 17:56                                   ` Stephen Leake
2003-06-06 17:15                                     ` Russ
2003-06-06 20:20                                       ` Robert A Duff
2003-06-07  6:24                                         ` Russ
2003-06-09 18:15                                           ` Stephen Leake
2003-06-10  6:33                                             ` Russ
2003-06-10  6:51                                               ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-10 10:18                                               ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-11  0:40                                                 ` Russ
2003-06-11  6:00                                                   ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-11  7:29                                                   ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-11 12:53                                                   ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-06-12  0:42                                                   ` Richard Riehle
2003-06-12 19:16                                                     ` Russ
2003-06-12 23:10                                                       ` Richard Riehle
2003-06-13  5:41                                                         ` Russ
2003-06-13  6:39                                                           ` tmoran
2003-06-13 12:19                                                             ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-13 13:40                                                             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-13  7:24                                                           ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-13 17:41                                                             ` Russ
2003-06-14 10:53                                                               ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-14 15:02                                                                 ` James Rogers
2003-06-14 15:39                                                                   ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-14 18:45                                                                 ` Russ
2003-06-16 11:23                                                               ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-13 11:22                                                           ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-13 17:55                                                             ` Russ
2003-06-13 16:22                                                           ` Richard Riehle
2003-06-13  7:24                                                       ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-14  2:12                                                         ` Steve
2003-06-15 17:05                                                           ` Richard Riehle
2003-06-15 18:05                                                             ` Sergey Koshcheyev
2003-06-16  5:45                                                               ` Richard Riehle
2003-06-16  5:10                                                             ` Steve
2003-06-16 13:49                                                               ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-16 14:07                                                                 ` Larry Hazel
2003-06-16 17:43                                                                   ` Russ
2003-06-16 16:19                                                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-06-16 16:56                                                                   ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-16 17:09                                                                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-06-16 17:44                                                                       ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-16 19:14                                                                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-06-16 20:24                                                                           ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-16  6:25                                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-06-16 17:16                                                             ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-06-16 17:46                                                               ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-16 18:19                                                                 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-16 18:40                                                                   ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-16 19:09                                                                     ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-16 19:29                                                                       ` Ideas for Ada 200X "left hand side" repeater Wesley Groleau
2003-06-16 20:31                                                                         ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-16 23:27                                                                           ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-17  0:30                                                                         ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-06-17  8:18                                                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-06-17 10:37                                                                             ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-06-17 10:59                                                                           ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-17 13:16                                                                             ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-17 13:38                                                                               ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-17 13:43                                                                                 ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-17 13:56                                                                                   ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-17 16:59                                                                                     ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-17 17:29                                                                                       ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-18  7:52                                                                                         ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-18 14:39                                                                                           ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-18  7:48                                                                                       ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-19  3:20                                                                                         ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-19 12:22                                                                                           ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-19 16:23                                                                                             ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-06-20  7:29                                                                                               ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-20  8:00                                                                                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-06-17 21:03                                                                               ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-06-18 22:13                                                                                 ` John R. Strohm
2003-06-18 23:50                                                                                   ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-06-17 15:23                                                                             ` Francisco Javier Loma Daza
2003-06-16 20:14                                                                       ` Ideas for Ada 200X Bill Findlay
2003-06-16 20:33                                                                         ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-16 20:52                                                                     ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-16 21:08                                                                       ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-16 21:13                                                                         ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-16 21:35                                                                           ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-17  8:08                                                                             ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-16 21:24                                                                         ` Pascal Obry
2003-06-16 21:30                                                                           ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-16 21:41                                                                             ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-16 21:52                                                                               ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-17 13:13                                                                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-06-18  7:18                                                                                   ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-16 21:32                                                                           ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-17  5:56                                                                     ` Russ
2003-06-17  8:18                                                                       ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-17 19:48                                                                         ` Russ
2003-06-18  7:58                                                                           ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-17 22:20                                                                         ` Russ
2003-06-17 22:36                                                                           ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-19  1:39                                                                             ` Russ
2003-06-18  8:06                                                                           ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-18  8:10                                                                             ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-18 18:50                                                                           ` Brian Gaffney
2003-06-18 21:38                                                                             ` Russ
2003-06-19  7:42                                                                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-06-19 17:33                                                                                 ` Russ
2003-06-20  7:53                                                                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-06-19 20:22                                                                               ` Brian Gaffney
2003-06-18 15:00                                                                     ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-06-19  0:31                                                                       ` Amir Yantimirov
2003-06-19 12:24                                                                         ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-20  2:08                                                                           ` Amir Yantimirov
2003-06-20  7:36                                                                             ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-21 12:20                                                                               ` John R. Strohm
2003-06-19 18:37                                                                       ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-06-24 10:08                                                                         ` AG
2003-06-24 10:11                                                                           ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-06-25 20:06                                                                             ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-26  3:02                                                                               ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-06-17  5:10                                                             ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-16 11:23                                                           ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-16 15:36                                                             ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-16 15:41                                                               ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-17  5:24                                                             ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-13 11:31                                                       ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-13 18:22                                                         ` Russ
2003-06-14 10:59                                                           ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-13 11:33                                                       ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-14  9:07                                                         ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-11  3:45                                               ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-10  9:12                                           ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-05 19:14                                   ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-06 18:10                                     ` Russ
2003-06-06 19:10                                       ` Stephen Leake
2003-06-07  1:16                                       ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-07  5:50                                         ` Russ
2003-06-07  6:32                                           ` tmoran
2003-06-07 18:39                                             ` Russ
2003-06-07 20:00                                               ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-07 23:04                                                 ` tmoran
2003-06-08  0:48                                                   ` tmoran
2003-06-08  3:49                                                   ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-08  3:32                                             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-09  7:08                                               ` Russ
2003-06-09  7:36                                                 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-09 15:51                                                 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-09 16:35                                                   ` tmoran
2003-06-09 16:56                                                     ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-09 18:29                                                       ` tmoran
2003-06-09 19:49                                                         ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-10 20:33                                                         ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-10 21:17                                                           ` Ole Kristensen
2003-06-10 23:26                                                             ` tmoran
2003-06-11  4:07                                                               ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-11  4:23                                                                 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-11 10:15                                                               ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-11 10:22                                                               ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-11  4:17                                                           ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-04  9:11                           ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-04 16:54                           ` Stephen Leake
2003-06-05  4:40                           ` Robert I. Eachus [this message]
2003-06-05  8:27                             ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-05 12:49                               ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-05 18:02                               ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-05 14:14                             ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-05 18:06                             ` Stephen Leake
2003-06-06  1:59                               ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-09 23:57                                 ` Robert A Duff
2003-06-03 15:32                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-05-30 19:56               ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-31  4:30                 ` Russ
2003-06-02  5:17                   ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-29  7:32           ` Martin Krischik
2003-05-29 22:48             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-30  6:13               ` Martin Krischik
2003-05-30  7:38                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-30 16:08                   ` Stephen Leake
2003-05-30 17:12                   ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-30 17:25                     ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-30 18:49                       ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-31 13:36                         ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-31  9:28                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-30  9:09                 ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-30 13:32                 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-30 16:16                   ` Stephen Leake
2003-05-30 17:22                     ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-30  6:20           ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-29  2:01         ` Jeffrey Carter
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2003-06-20  1:34 Russ
2003-06-20  2:13 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-21 12:24   ` John R. Strohm
2003-06-22  3:52     ` Wesley Groleau
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