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* Re: Is Microsoft de-emphasizing C#  ?
       [not found] ` <8900o-4qh.ln1@lexi2.athghost7038suus.net>
@ 2003-04-29  5:24   ` Kent Paul Dolan
  2003-04-29  6:08     ` Tom Shelton
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From: Kent Paul Dolan @ 2003-04-29  5:24 UTC (permalink / raw)


The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net> wrote:

[about C# not being the only language of .NET]

> C# is 1 of 20 languages supported by, among other things, the MSIL.
> I'll admit to some curiosity as to how many languages are
> supported by Java bytecode -- Java of course being one of them.

Well, at least Ada compiles into Java bytecode as well, in at
least one commercial compiler.

Which raises an interesting point; why not Pascal, which used to
compile to a bytecode in one version (UCSD Pascal); surely a
port to translate to Java bytecode instead should be fairly
straightforward?

> However, there's a flip side: Java bytecode may support only one
> language, but that could mean it supports it very well. :-)

But on the gripping hand, targeting other language compilers
also to Java bytecode would be a tremendous portability boost
for those other languages, and give them ready access to the
massive Java libraries and open source movement.  I'd love to
see a Fortran 95 to Java bytecode compiler, e.g.

xanthian.



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* Re: Is Microsoft de-emphasizing C#  ?
  2003-04-29  5:24   ` Is Microsoft de-emphasizing C# ? Kent Paul Dolan
@ 2003-04-29  6:08     ` Tom Shelton
  2003-04-29  6:54       ` Greg Lindahl
  2003-04-29 18:35     ` Wesley Groleau
  2003-04-30  2:09     ` Richard Riehle
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Tom Shelton @ 2003-04-29  6:08 UTC (permalink / raw)



"Kent Paul Dolan" <xanthian@well.com> wrote in message
news:a3eaa964.0304282124.4b86fbf6@posting.google.com...
> The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net> wrote:
>

>  I'd love to
> see a Fortran 95 to Java bytecode compiler, e.g.

He, He! .NET's got one of those!  Actually I think there are 2.

Tom Shelton





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* Re: Is Microsoft de-emphasizing C#  ?
  2003-04-29  6:08     ` Tom Shelton
@ 2003-04-29  6:54       ` Greg Lindahl
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Greg Lindahl @ 2003-04-29  6:54 UTC (permalink / raw)


In article <wFora.1891$O%.244417@news.uswest.net>,
Tom Shelton <tom@mtogden.com> wrote:

>>  I'd love to
>> see a Fortran 95 to Java bytecode compiler, e.g.
>
>He, He! .NET's got one of those!  Actually I think there are 2.

Can you please not respond to K*nt's trolls in widely cross-posted
threads? I know he's gotten more mellow in the past 15 years, but he's
still mostly a kook.

Followups trimmed.

greg




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* Re: Is Microsoft de-emphasizing C#  ?
  2003-04-29  5:24   ` Is Microsoft de-emphasizing C# ? Kent Paul Dolan
  2003-04-29  6:08     ` Tom Shelton
@ 2003-04-29 18:35     ` Wesley Groleau
  2003-04-30  2:09     ` Richard Riehle
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Wesley Groleau @ 2003-04-29 18:35 UTC (permalink / raw)



>>C# is 1 of 20 languages supported by, among other things, the MSIL.
>>I'll admit to some curiosity as to how many languages are
>>supported by Java bytecode -- Java of course being one of them.

http://grunge.cs.tu-berlin.de/~tolk/vmlanguages.html

> But on the gripping hand, targeting other language compilers
> also to Java bytecode would be a tremendous portability boost
> for those other languages, and give them ready access to the
> massive Java libraries and open source movement.  I'd love to
> see a Fortran 95 to Java bytecode compiler, e.g.

See above.




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* Re: Is Microsoft de-emphasizing C#  ?
  2003-04-29  5:24   ` Is Microsoft de-emphasizing C# ? Kent Paul Dolan
  2003-04-29  6:08     ` Tom Shelton
  2003-04-29 18:35     ` Wesley Groleau
@ 2003-04-30  2:09     ` Richard Riehle
  2003-04-30  7:46       ` Tim Tyler
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Richard Riehle @ 2003-04-30  2:09 UTC (permalink / raw)


Kent Paul Dolan wrote:

> Well, at least Ada compiles into Java bytecode as well, in at
> least one commercial compiler.

Which compiler supports the current JVM?  JGNAT no longer
does.  Is the Aonix compiler up-to-date for the current JVM?

Richard Riehle




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* Re: Is Microsoft de-emphasizing C#  ?
  2003-04-30  2:09     ` Richard Riehle
@ 2003-04-30  7:46       ` Tim Tyler
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Tim Tyler @ 2003-04-30  7:46 UTC (permalink / raw)


In comp.lang.java.advocacy Richard Riehle <richard@adaworks.com> wrote:
: Kent Paul Dolan wrote:

:> Well, at least Ada compiles into Java bytecode as well, in at
:> least one commercial compiler.

: Which compiler supports the current JVM?  JGNAT no longer
: does.  Is the Aonix compiler up-to-date for the current JVM?

That shouldn't make much difference - since the bytecode from
Java 1.02 still runs fine on the latest JVMs.
-- 
__________
 |im |yler  http://timtyler.org/  tim@tt1.org



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