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From: rd <nospam@spam.no>
Subject: Re: If anybody wants to make something in Ada but do not know what
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 11:10:56 -0500
Date: 2003-04-16T16:12:50+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E9D8090.F86AF4EC@spam.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3E9D61C0.5070103@cogeco.ca

"Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" wrote:
> 
> Preben Randhol wrote:

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> > Besides spam filters is something
> > people need so it could promote Ada95.
> >
> > Wish I could make it myself, but I simply don't have the time at the
> > moment.
> ...
> > Preben
> 
> I personally believe that as long as email is free (and we like it
> that way), SPAM will continue to be a big problem. To keep email
> free, I think that the only way this will work is we'll end up
> using two forms of email on the Internet:
> 
>    1) Traditional email, which permits unsolicited mail (port 25);
>       which will continually battle with spam filters and such.
>    2) A newer "solicited only" email system (port 26?)
> 
> Perhaps the 2nd kind, can piggy back off of the first, by either
> using a similar but extended protocol, and probably
> using a new TCP/IP port # to avoid the log jam that occurs
> on port 25 as spammers spam away.
> 
> The new email protocol would make use of PKI exchanges (PGP?),
> so that only those people that you have shared certificates
> with, can successfully deposit email in your mailbox (this
> would be great for kids, so that only their friends can
> send them mail etc.). If someone gives away the cert (if the
> protocol allows it), then you revoke it, and issue a new one
> if necessary.
> 
> Where the protocol research comes in (I think), is the method of
> sharing and administering certs in a way that is easy for
> grandmothers to work with.
> 
For the second protocol, <a href="http://www.jabber.org">Jabber</a>
might be just the thing.  The best part about Jabber is the real time
messaging capability, and if I was designing the second protocol, I would
include this functionality.

I don't believe there are any Jabber clients/servers written in Ada, and
I'm not sure how well Jabber uses crypto, but I do know that I still
miss a useful ICQ, and AIM doesn't fill the void (can't do computer to
computer messages in AIM.  They must go through the central server).



  reply	other threads:[~2003-04-16 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-16 12:53 If anybody wants to make something in Ada but do not know what Preben Randhol
2003-04-16 13:59 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-04-16 16:10   ` rd [this message]
2003-04-16 16:34     ` SPAM-less email (was If anybody wants to make something in Ada but do not know what) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-04-16 17:00       ` SPAM-less email (was If anybody wants to make something in Ada but Larry Kilgallen
2003-04-16 17:43         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-04-16 18:03           ` Samuel Tardieu
2003-04-16 18:48             ` SPAM-less email (was If anybody wants to make something in Ada tmoran
2003-04-16 20:58               ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-04-17 16:51             ` SPAM-less email (was If anybody wants to make something in Ada but Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-04-17 21:54               ` Robert A Duff
2003-04-17 22:39                 ` AG
2003-04-18  8:27                 ` Preben Randhol
2003-04-17 23:38               ` SPAM-less email (was If anybody wants to make something in Adabut Randy Brukardt
2003-04-18  0:06                 ` AG
2003-04-18  0:32                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-04-18  0:48                     ` AG
2003-04-18  2:10                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-04-18  3:13                         ` AG
2003-04-18  4:50                           ` tmoran
2003-04-18 11:26                             ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-04-18 11:23                         ` Larry Kilgallen
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2003-04-19  6:36                           ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-04-21 18:50                     ` Randy Brukardt
2003-04-18  7:32                 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2003-04-18 11:32                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-04-19  4:45                     ` [way off-topic] A new spammer is born? Wesley Groleau
2003-04-19 20:10                   ` SPAM-less email (was If anybody wants to make something in Adabut Georg Bauhaus
2003-04-19 21:15                     ` AG
2003-04-20 15:31                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-04-21  3:33                         ` Wesley Groleau
2003-04-16 19:19           ` SPAM-less email (was If anybody wants to make something in Ada Larry Kilgallen
2003-04-16 21:38       ` SPAM-less email (was If anybody wants to make something in Ada butdo not know what) rd
2003-04-16 22:03         ` Samuel Tardieu
2003-04-17  0:16           ` rd
2003-04-17 16:59           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-04-17 16:58         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-04-17 22:02         ` Robert A Duff
2003-04-16 19:16     ` If anybody wants to make something in Ada but do not know what Pascal Obry
2003-04-16 19:42       ` Samuel Tardieu
2003-04-24 13:55   ` Frode Tenneboe
2003-04-28 16:00     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-04-28 17:28       ` Preben Randhol
2003-04-28 19:53         ` Wesley Groleau
2003-04-29  6:14           ` Preben Randhol
2003-04-29 17:40       ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-04-16 17:52 ` Jano
2003-04-16 18:43 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-04-16 20:03   ` Randy Brukardt
2003-04-16 20:01 ` Randy Brukardt
2003-04-16 23:21   ` Wesley Groleau
2003-04-17  8:05     ` AG
2003-04-17 16:52       ` Wesley Groleau
2003-04-17 22:02         ` AG
2003-04-17 22:58     ` Randy Brukardt
2003-04-19  6:28       ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-04-23 19:32         ` Robert C. Leif
2003-04-24  1:35           ` Wesley Groleau
2003-04-16 23:26   ` Wesley Groleau
2003-04-17 22:28     ` Randy Brukardt
2003-04-30 12:44 ` Frank
2003-04-30 19:59   ` Free SVG tools Nick Roberts
2003-05-02  4:54     ` Steve Bowen
2003-05-02 20:12       ` Martin Holmes
2003-05-03 18:54         ` Steve Bowen
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