* Re: Ada95 in business (database) software
2003-02-09 5:58 Ada95 in business (database) software Mark Wallace
@ 2003-02-09 11:17 ` Adrian Knoth
2003-02-09 11:22 ` Preben Randhol
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From: Adrian Knoth @ 2003-02-09 11:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
Mark Wallace <no.spam@verizon.net> wrote:
> Is anyone using Ada95 for database-oriented business applications?
Me, but not to that extend you might want to do.
> either of the principal commercial compilers (Aonix, GNAT) have a decent
> (i.e., better than ODBC) interface to Oracle?
Did you take a look at gnade.sf.net?
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* Re: Ada95 in business (database) software
2003-02-09 5:58 Ada95 in business (database) software Mark Wallace
2003-02-09 11:17 ` Adrian Knoth
@ 2003-02-09 11:22 ` Preben Randhol
2003-02-09 11:40 ` Poul-Erik Andreasen
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From: Preben Randhol @ 2003-02-09 11:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
Mark Wallace wrote:
>
> We're willing to swim upstream with regard to non-mainstream languages,
> because we care deeply about software quality. However, we have neither
> the expertise nor the funding to (re)create low-level code such as
> database interface modules.
You can have a look at GNADE => http://gnade.sourceforge.net/
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* Re: Ada95 in business (database) software
2003-02-09 5:58 Ada95 in business (database) software Mark Wallace
2003-02-09 11:17 ` Adrian Knoth
2003-02-09 11:22 ` Preben Randhol
@ 2003-02-09 11:40 ` Poul-Erik Andreasen
2003-02-10 6:47 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
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From: Poul-Erik Andreasen @ 2003-02-09 11:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 05:58:31 GMT
Mark Wallace <no.spam@verizon.net> wrote:
> Is anyone using Ada95 for database-oriented business applications? Does
> either of the principal commercial compilers (Aonix, GNAT) have a decent
> (i.e., better than ODBC) interface to Oracle? My team is evaluating
> Ada95 and Eiffel for a new development effort, and we are having a hard
> time identifying any sort of track record for Ada95 in this category
> (business/database) of application. All the Ada95 "buzz" seems to be
> related to device drivers and embedded controller software.
>
> We're willing to swim upstream with regard to non-mainstream languages,
> because we care deeply about software quality. However, we have neither
> the expertise nor the funding to (re)create low-level code such as
> database interface modules.
I don't know if anyone are using this but you kan have a look:
http://www.redrocketconsortium.com/zbc/
--
Poul-Erik Andreasen
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* Re: Ada95 in business (database) software
2003-02-09 5:58 Ada95 in business (database) software Mark Wallace
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2003-02-09 11:40 ` Poul-Erik Andreasen
@ 2003-02-10 6:47 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2003-02-10 8:32 ` Peter Amey
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From: Dmitriy Anisimkov @ 2003-02-10 6:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
"Mark Wallace" <no.spam@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Is anyone using Ada95 for database-oriented business applications? Does
> either of the principal commercial compilers (Aonix, GNAT) have a decent
> (i.e., better than ODBC) interface to Oracle?
Mark,
You could take a look to the Ada 95 to the (Oracle Call Interface).
http://vagul.tripod.com/adaoci.html
It is also including to the GNADE.
http://gnade.sourceforge.net/
I'm intensively using it in the business application development.
I know some other russian developers using it too.
Frankly, there is no good documentation. But there is a good example showing
the main functionality,
and you can ask me directly.
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* Re: Ada95 in business (database) software
2003-02-09 5:58 Ada95 in business (database) software Mark Wallace
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2003-02-10 6:47 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
@ 2003-02-10 8:32 ` Peter Amey
2003-02-15 20:02 ` Mark Wallace
2003-02-10 9:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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From: Peter Amey @ 2003-02-10 8:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
Mark Wallace wrote:
>
> Is anyone using Ada95 for database-oriented business applications? Does
> either of the principal commercial compilers (Aonix, GNAT) have a decent
> (i.e., better than ODBC) interface to Oracle? My team is evaluating
> Ada95 and Eiffel for a new development effort, and we are having a hard
> time identifying any sort of track record for Ada95 in this category
> (business/database) of application. All the Ada95 "buzz" seems to be
> related to device drivers and embedded controller software.
>
> We're willing to swim upstream with regard to non-mainstream languages,
> because we care deeply about software quality. However, we have neither
> the expertise nor the funding to (re)create low-level code such as
> database interface modules.
>
A significant chunk of a secure system we developed in SPARK and Ada 95
involved SQL links to a database. See "Correctness by Construction -
Developing a Commercial Secure System" in IEEE Software Jan/Feb 2002
pp18-25. (Also in PDF on www.sparkada.com under publications). ISTR we
wrote the binding ourselves but that it wasn't hard.
Peter
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* Re: Ada95 in business (database) software
2003-02-10 8:32 ` Peter Amey
@ 2003-02-15 20:02 ` Mark Wallace
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From: Mark Wallace @ 2003-02-15 20:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
Peter Amey wrote:
>
> Mark Wallace wrote:
> >
> > Is anyone using Ada95 for database-oriented business applications? Does
> > either of the principal commercial compilers (Aonix, GNAT) have a decent
> > (i.e., better than ODBC) interface to Oracle? My team is evaluating
> > Ada95 and Eiffel for a new development effort, and we are having a hard
> > time identifying any sort of track record for Ada95 in this category
> > (business/database) of application. All the Ada95 "buzz" seems to be
> > related to device drivers and embedded controller software.
> >
> > We're willing to swim upstream with regard to non-mainstream languages,
> > because we care deeply about software quality. However, we have neither
> > the expertise nor the funding to (re)create low-level code such as
> > database interface modules.
> >
>
> A significant chunk of a secure system we developed in SPARK and Ada 95
> involved SQL links to a database. See "Correctness by Construction -
> Developing a Commercial Secure System" in IEEE Software Jan/Feb 2002
> pp18-25. (Also in PDF on www.sparkada.com under publications). ISTR we
> wrote the binding ourselves but that it wasn't hard.
>
> Peter
I read this article (from your Web site), and, while I found it very
interesting, didn't see any mention of database or SQL.
Mark
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* Re: Ada95 in business (database) software
2003-02-09 5:58 Ada95 in business (database) software Mark Wallace
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2003-02-10 8:32 ` Peter Amey
@ 2003-02-10 9:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-02-10 17:09 ` Wojtek Narczynski
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From: Dmitry A. Kazakov @ 2003-02-10 9:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 05:58:31 GMT, Mark Wallace <no.spam@verizon.net>
wrote:
>Is anyone using Ada95 for database-oriented business applications? Does
>either of the principal commercial compilers (Aonix, GNAT) have a decent
>(i.e., better than ODBC) interface to Oracle? My team is evaluating
>Ada95 and Eiffel for a new development effort, and we are having a hard
>time identifying any sort of track record for Ada95 in this category
>(business/database) of application. All the Ada95 "buzz" seems to be
>related to device drivers and embedded controller software.
>
>We're willing to swim upstream with regard to non-mainstream languages,
>because we care deeply about software quality. However, we have neither
>the expertise nor the funding to (re)create low-level code such as
>database interface modules.
I am using GNADE (its ODBC binding) with GNAT. GNADE is fine [but ODBC
and its implementations is a real disaster]
AFAIK, GNADE supports Oracle through native interface .
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Regards,
Dmitry Kazakov
www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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* Re: Ada95 in business (database) software
2003-02-09 5:58 Ada95 in business (database) software Mark Wallace
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2003-02-10 9:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
@ 2003-02-10 17:09 ` Wojtek Narczynski
2003-02-11 8:26 ` Frank Piron
2003-02-11 0:16 ` David Botton
2003-02-15 20:01 ` Mark Wallace
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From: Wojtek Narczynski @ 2003-02-10 17:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
Mark Wallace <no.spam@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<3E45EE04.280EC800@verizon.net>...
> Is anyone using Ada95 for database-oriented business applications? Does
> either of the principal commercial compilers (Aonix, GNAT) have a decent
> (i.e., better than ODBC) interface to Oracle?
Oracle 7 used to have an Ada precompiler PRO*Ada.
Now there is this SQL*Module beast.
Looks good, but I haven't tested it yet.
Regards,
Wojtek
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* Re: Ada95 in business (database) software
2003-02-10 17:09 ` Wojtek Narczynski
@ 2003-02-11 8:26 ` Frank Piron
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From: Frank Piron @ 2003-02-11 8:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
Wojtek Narczynski wrote:
>
> Oracle 7 used to have an Ada precompiler PRO*Ada.
>
> Now there is this SQL*Module beast.
Last year i tried to get some information concerning
SQL*Module, but our ORACLE-Distributor here in Munich
said: "This is Army Stuff and not available for _normal_
customers!"
I have not enough time and nerves to refuse or confirm
this above Statement - you know that ORACLE is a big
company and you will phone all the day to get a bit of
information.
In our ORACLE-Distribution i found only the Documentation
for modada ( the precompiler ), but not the executable.
Frank
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* Re: Ada95 in business (database) software
2003-02-09 5:58 Ada95 in business (database) software Mark Wallace
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2003-02-10 17:09 ` Wojtek Narczynski
@ 2003-02-11 0:16 ` David Botton
2003-02-15 20:01 ` Mark Wallace
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From: David Botton @ 2003-02-11 0:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: comp.lang.ada mail to news gateway
I have used Oracle via ADO using GNATCOM working with huge (10s of millions
of rows) databases on call center apps very successfully. I've also created
a number of small apps using GWindows and its database components for
rapidly creating database front ends.
David Botton
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From: "Mark Wallace" <no.spam@verizon.net>
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To: <comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org>
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Subject: Ada95 in business (database) software
> Is anyone using Ada95 for database-oriented business applications? Does
> either of the principal commercial compilers (Aonix, GNAT) have a decent
> (i.e., better than ODBC) interface to Oracle? My team is evaluating
> Ada95 and Eiffel for a new development effort, and we are having a hard
> time identifying any sort of track record for Ada95 in this category
> (business/database) of application. All the Ada95 "buzz" seems to be
> related to device drivers and embedded controller software.
>
> We're willing to swim upstream with regard to non-mainstream languages,
> because we care deeply about software quality. However, we have neither
> the expertise nor the funding to (re)create low-level code such as
> database interface modules.
>
> TIA,
>
> Mark
>
> P.S. If you want to reply directly, use my <first_name>.<last_name> to
> the left of the at-sign.
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* Re: Ada95 in business (database) software
2003-02-09 5:58 Ada95 in business (database) software Mark Wallace
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2003-02-11 0:16 ` David Botton
@ 2003-02-15 20:01 ` Mark Wallace
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From: Mark Wallace @ 2003-02-15 20:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
Mark Wallace wrote:
>
> Is anyone using Ada95 for database-oriented business applications? Does
> either of the principal commercial compilers (Aonix, GNAT) have a decent
> (i.e., better than ODBC) interface to Oracle? My team is evaluating
> Ada95 and Eiffel for a new development effort, and we are having a hard
> time identifying any sort of track record for Ada95 in this category
> (business/database) of application. All the Ada95 "buzz" seems to be
> related to device drivers and embedded controller software.
>
> We're willing to swim upstream with regard to non-mainstream languages,
> because we care deeply about software quality. However, we have neither
> the expertise nor the funding to (re)create low-level code such as
> database interface modules.
>
> TIA,
>
> Mark
>
> P.S. If you want to reply directly, use my <first_name>.<last_name> to
> the left of the at-sign.
Thanks to everyone who replied.
Mark
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