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From: David Marceau <davidmarceau@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Bye-bye Ada ?
Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 14:25:57 -0500
Date: 2003-02-01T14:25:57-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E3C1F45.7A9EA40F@sympatico.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8EB7BBBEFF3CB953.E0F20C8D5B9CEAFE.0929EA6DDF474EB6@lp.airnews.net

"John R. Strohm" wrote:
> 
> David, how easy or difficult is it for a U.S. citizen to get a work permit
> for Belgium or Switzerland?  Last I heard, it was for all practical purposes
> impossible in the United Kingdom.
If the employer is interested in you, the employer can get the work
permit done because he is sponsoring you and because you have special
skills he is looking for at the wage that he can afford.  In fact you
are right if no employer wants to sponsor you, you won't easily be able
to work in England.  As it stands I would assume the same in EC
countries also.

Another method employers use to have you work in another country is if
you are Canadian and if the potential employer is a multi-national
company and have an address both in Canada, and elsewhere(UK, US or the
rest of EC), then they just pay you in Canada, but you are actually on
location in wherever.  I'm no expert but this has been my limited
experience in all this.  It may not give you permanent residency but at
least you'll be working.

BTW Thales place an Ada job posting in Ottawa Citizen Newspaper in
Canada today!  BTW I have submitted my cv there also and may the best
coder get the job :)  If we're lucky they may hire all the ada coders
they can get their hands on.

I hope this helps.

Cheers,
David Marceau

> 
> "David Marceau" <davidmarceau@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3E3AE20D.AAA210DE@sympatico.ca...
> > Wes Groleau wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, one Ada proponent has just been asked
> > > to find a new line of work.
> > >
> > > C/C++ is unacceptable (except as a minor
> > > part of the job), and I don't want to relocate
> > > any more.  So I guess I'll become a Spanish teacher!
> > >
> > > I'll still peek in here once in a while....
> > Mr. Groleau,
> >
> > I have seen many of your postings in here.  I do believe that you are a
> > competent programmer that has seen some difficult times at work recently
> > as most people in the industry.
> >
> > I would guess that your personal feelings have been hurt by all this and
> > especially because from what I understand you also lost your job.
> >
> > IMHO you must be just feeling bad right now.  I think after thinking
> > about it for a while you'll see that you just did a brain fart and don't
> > mean it.  You care about Ada/building working code too much to just up
> > and go away from it.  Then again I may be wrong and it may really be
> > time for you to move on.
> >
> > That's what I said about programming a few years ago after having gone
> > through a burn out.  Actually I'm pretty sure coding is what I was
> > supposed to do with my life and from what I can see you like this stuff
> > too much.
> >
> > I'll bet you'll be back coding ada after some much needed rest teaching
> > Spanish.  Not to get too existential but "Follow your heart" :)  This
> > might mean relocating at a later date.
> >
> > Once you do decide to relocate, I've seen some ada jobs posted around
> > EASTERN U.S., BELGIUM, SWITZERLAND, and ENGLAND.  Just recently one
> > opened up in OTTAWA CANADA(Christine Hamilton <chamilton@i4c.ca>) which
> > means there are ADA JOBS floating around.
> > http://www.adapower.com/
> > http://www.adaic.org/      -- some job listings
> > http://www.acm.org/sigada/
> > http://www.cs.kuleuven.ac.be/~dirk/ada-belgium/     -- some job listings
> > -- for many places where Ada is being used and where you might post your
> > cv:
> > http://www.seas.gwu.edu/~mfeldman/ada-project-summary.html
> > One other place you might target sending your cv would be to all the
> > participants of a convention recently mentioned in Crosstalk:
> > http://www.stsc.hill.af.mil/crosstalk/2003/02/
> >
> > Also check out TNI Europe http://www.tni-world.com/how_to_find_us.asp
> > This company is a HOOD METHODOLOGY tool builder generating code for Ada
> > and are always looking for more senior ada programmers.
> > Congleton(Cheshire, England) is a beautiful place with lots of
> > history(ancient roman relics found here/huguenots and catholic history)
> > and the employer(Mr. Tony Elliston <tony.elliston@tni-europe.com>)
> > treats his employees well.
> >
> > Sant� bonheur,(I wish you health and happiness,)
> > David Marceau



  reply	other threads:[~2003-02-01 19:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-31 16:19 Bye-bye Ada ? Wes Groleau
2003-01-31 17:22 ` chris.danx
2003-01-31 19:00   ` Wes Groleau
2003-02-01 14:29     ` Marin David Condic
2003-02-02 22:24       ` chris.danx
2003-02-03 13:20         ` Marin David Condic
2003-02-03 17:26           ` Richard Riehle
2003-02-04 13:22             ` Marin David Condic
2003-02-06  4:23               ` Richard Riehle
2003-02-06 13:03                 ` Marin David Condic
2003-02-07  9:27                   ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-02-07 12:37                     ` Marin David Condic
2003-02-07  0:28                 ` P S Norby
2003-02-07  3:33                   ` Richard Riehle
2003-02-08  5:51                   ` AG
2003-02-04 16:25             ` Robert C. Leif
2003-02-01 17:40     ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-02-01 18:51       ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-02-02 14:11         ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-02-01 19:54       ` Jan-Uwe Finck
2003-02-02 15:19         ` Steffen Huber
2003-02-02 15:17       ` Steffen Huber
2003-02-03 17:05         ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-02-03 17:48           ` Steffen Huber
2003-01-31 17:58 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-31 22:13   ` Preben Randhol
2003-02-01 23:25     ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-01 14:34   ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-31 20:52 ` David Marceau
2003-02-01  7:16   ` John R. Strohm
2003-02-01 19:25     ` David Marceau [this message]
2003-02-01 20:13       ` Ada job opportunity posted at THALES in Ottawa Citizen Today David Marceau
2003-02-01 20:16     ` Bye-bye Ada ? Vinzent Hoefler
2003-01-31 22:17 ` Preben Randhol
2003-02-01  7:48 ` Richard Riehle
2003-02-01 23:31   ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-03 17:25     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-02-03 17:49       ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-04  0:19         ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-02-04 16:32           ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-04 17:59             ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-02-04 16:30         ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-02-04 16:41           ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-04 16:54       ` Kevin Cline
2003-02-04 18:00         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-02-05  7:12         ` Karel Miklav
2003-02-05  5:26     ` Richard Riehle
2003-02-05 15:07       ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-06 18:14         ` Bye-bye Ada ? (Ada95 Wholesale Changes?) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-02-06 18:51           ` Robert Spooner
2003-02-06 23:00           ` Jerry Petrey
2003-02-07  1:21             ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-02-07  3:53           ` Richard Riehle
2003-02-07  4:35             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-07 18:25               ` Richard Riehle
2003-02-08  5:51                 ` Kevin Cline
2003-02-08  6:49                   ` Richard Riehle
2003-02-09 11:47                     ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-10  5:20                       ` Richard Riehle
2003-02-10  6:21                         ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-16 21:09                           ` Richard Riehle
2003-02-20  3:53                             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-12 19:04                     ` Martin Krischik
2003-02-13 17:27                       ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-15 11:56                         ` Martin Krischik
2003-02-20  4:08                           ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-23 13:37                             ` Martin Krischik
2003-02-24 17:00                               ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-26 19:57                                 ` Martin Krischik
2003-02-15 15:43                         ` Martin Krischik
2003-02-20  4:03                           ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-07  6:28             ` K
2003-02-07  6:58               ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-02-07  7:17           ` K
2003-02-07  8:57           ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-02-07  9:22           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-02-01 14:24 ` Bye-bye Ada ? Marin David Condic
2003-02-02  9:51 ` Anders Wirzenius
2003-02-04 19:26   ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-01-31 16:29 Beard, Frank Randolph CIV
2003-02-03  7:05 Grein, Christoph
2003-02-03  9:26 ` Preben Randhol
2003-02-04 12:03 Rick Morneau
2003-02-05 13:02 Rick Morneau
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