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From: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" <ve3wwg@cogeco.ca>
Subject: Re: Ada Compiler Pricing (was Re: Hijacking a Thread was RE: New Ada     compiler for .NET)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:21:19 -0500
Date: 2003-01-17T12:21:19-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E283B8F.9090808@cogeco.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3E25F61F.4600B9F8@adaworks.com

Richard Riehle wrote:
> "John R. Strohm" wrote:
>>Just out of curiosity, did the Xerox executives in question give any kind of
>>explanation WHY they outlawed Ada?
> 
> As nearly as anyone could determine, they had no reason other than that they
> decided to standardize on C.
> 
>>One would think that, if the project manager did a decent job of detailing
>>the actual cost and schedule savings on the Ada project, that it would get
>>the attention of the beancounters.
> 
> The project manager was giving a lot of success story seminars at conferences,
> especially Tri-Ada conferences.    However, his was the only development
> group that had enjoyed success with Ada.   Everyone else was using other
> languages, including, if I recall correctly, Mesa.
> 
> It looks, from the outside, like another example of the kind of stupidity about
> computing once typical of  people at the executive level of Xerox.  It is hard
> to know if they have gotten any better.   They certainly never learned any
> lessons from PARC -- although the rest of the world did.
> 
> Richard Riehle

Out of "idle curiosity", were these "excutives" former "developers"?
I can picture X-programmers turned executives from having their own
mis-informed biases, or biases that should be re-checked with new
information. My own personal experience is that those that have had
prior "experience" (or think they've had) are the most difficult ones
to deal with ;-)

wwg.

-- 
Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
http://home.cogeco.ca/~ve3wwg




  reply	other threads:[~2003-01-17 17:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2002-12-23  1:03 ` Hijacking a Thread was RE: New Ada compiler for .NET Robert C. Leif
2002-12-23 11:11   ` Ingo Marks
2002-12-23 14:18     ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-05 16:50       ` Adrian Hoe
2003-01-06  9:09         ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-06  9:17         ` I. Marks
2003-01-06 22:12           ` Ted Dennison
2003-01-07  3:23             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-07 13:21               ` Ted Dennison
2003-01-08  4:52                 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-08  5:54                   ` James S. Rogers
2003-01-08 13:08                   ` Ted Dennison
2003-01-10  2:38                   ` Richard Riehle
2003-01-10  5:02                     ` Adrian Hoe
2003-01-10  5:23             ` Adrian Hoe
2003-01-11  4:47               ` Ted Dennison
2003-01-06 13:27         ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-01-07  3:30           ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-07 13:24             ` Ted Dennison
2003-01-10  2:43             ` Richard Riehle
2003-01-10  5:13               ` Adrian Hoe
2003-01-10  5:17               ` Adrian Hoe
2003-01-10  5:11             ` Adrian Hoe
2003-01-10  5:46               ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-10 15:09                 ` Ranged Types (was: Hijacking a Thread) Larry Kilgallen
2003-01-10 23:17                 ` Hijacking a Thread was RE: New Ada compiler for .NET Georg Bauhaus
2003-01-11  5:27                 ` Ted Dennison
2003-01-11  7:33                 ` Making bombs after graduation ( was Re: Hijacking a Thread was RE: New Ada compiler for .NET) faust
2003-01-10 13:53                   ` Christopher Browne
2003-01-11  9:10                     ` u.r. faust
2003-01-10 14:25                   ` Fraser Wilson
2003-01-10 10:41               ` Hijacking a Thread was RE: New Ada compiler for .NET Richard Riehle
2003-01-10 13:22                 ` Ada Compiler Pricing (was Re: Hijacking a Thread was RE: New Ada compiler for .NET) Marin David Condic
2003-01-10 22:38                   ` Richard Riehle
2003-01-11 14:15                     ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-14 20:02                     ` Kevin Cline
2003-01-14 23:03                       ` Pat Rogers
2003-01-15  2:00                       ` Adrian Hoe
2003-01-15  4:03                       ` John R. Strohm
2003-01-15 13:26                         ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-15 17:43                           ` Richard Riehle
2003-01-15 20:57                             ` Robert C. Leif
2003-01-15 22:53                               ` chris.danx
2003-01-16 12:58                                 ` Ada Compiler Pricing (was Re: Hijacking a Thread was RE: NewAda " Marin David Condic
2003-01-16  1:28                               ` Ada Compiler Pricing (was Re: Hijacking a Thread was RE: New Ada " Jeffrey Carter
2003-01-16  3:45                                 ` Ada Compiler Pricing (was Re: Hijacking a Thread was RE: NewAda " Richard Riehle
2003-01-16 15:44                                 ` Jerry Petrey
2003-01-16 19:50                                   ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-01-15 23:18                             ` Ada Compiler Pricing (was Re: Hijacking a Thread was RE: New Ada " John R. Strohm
2003-01-16  0:00                               ` Richard Riehle
2003-01-17 17:21                                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG [this message]
2003-01-17 19:09                                   ` Ada Compiler Pricing (was Re: Hijacking a Thread was RE: NewAda " Richard Riehle
2003-01-16 12:50                             ` Ada Compiler Pricing (was Re: Hijacking a Thread was RE: New Ada " Marin David Condic
2003-02-03  9:33                             ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-01-11  4:38                   ` Adrian Hoe
2003-01-11  9:02                     ` Pascal Obry
2003-01-11 14:28                       ` Ada Compiler Pricing Marin David Condic
2003-01-13 12:33                     ` Ada Compiler Pricing (was Re: Hijacking a Thread was RE: New Ada compiler for .NET) John English
2003-01-13 16:15                       ` Adrian Hoe
2003-01-14 12:52                         ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-15  7:11                       ` AG
2003-01-27 12:33                 ` Hijacking a Thread was RE: New Ada compiler for .NET Colin Paul Gloster
2003-01-28 13:14                   ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-28 13:47                   ` Pat Rogers
2003-01-28 15:31                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-01-29 12:43                       ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-11  7:21               ` faust
2003-01-10 22:38             ` P S Norby
2003-01-11  3:44               ` Adrian Hoe
2003-01-13 12:31           ` John English
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