From: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" <ve3wwg@cogeco.ca>
Subject: Re: Anybody in US using ADA ? New language competition?
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 13:08:04 -0500
Date: 2003-01-02T13:08:04-05:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E148004.5000408@cogeco.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: av1c7j$ctl$1@slb3.atl.mindspring.net
Marin David Condic wrote:
...
> Maybe that's part of why there was/is a lot of resentment toward Ada. It
> walked in the door with a mandate and everyone had big investments in other
> things and the feeling was "This is going to cost me truckloads in
> discarding my existing investment and for what? An uncertain 'technical
> advantage'? Why are they trying to make my life harder?"
It would be interesting reading to review the "competition to
the Green language" at this point in time, to see how the
other entries stack up with what we know and accept today in
compiler languages and technologies. Are there online documents
that describe the other entries?
The Internet today would make it very easy for us to form our
own committee of "language experts" to start a language design
competition and review. Once the winner is announced, there must
be enough open sourced people spoiling for a chance to work on
a new language/compiler. Getting it accepted by industry would
be a different matter, but hey -- Linux is gaining acceptance.
Stranger things have happened.
However, when I think about it myself, I just feel that Ada95 (and
pending 200y) has gained so much useful experience, that it seems
a shame to start over (and add to the competition with Ada). I'd
rather see Ada succeed than start from near scratch again. But hey-
maybe there is a better design waiting to be sprung on the world.
--
Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
http://home.cogeco.ca/~ve3wwg
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2002-12-31 18:37 Anybody in US using ADA ? Mr Bill
2002-12-31 18:55 ` John R. Strohm
2003-01-01 3:20 ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-01 7:11 ` tmoran
2003-01-01 14:31 ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-01 22:49 ` tmoran
2003-01-02 12:45 ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-02 18:08 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG [this message]
2003-01-03 2:47 ` Anybody in US using ADA ? New language competition? Marin David Condic
2003-01-03 6:01 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-01-03 17:58 ` Anybody in US using ADA ? New language competition? (long) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-01-04 14:57 ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-06 15:53 ` Wes Groleau
2003-01-06 16:36 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-01-06 20:47 ` Randy Brukardt
2003-01-07 13:15 ` Wes Groleau
2003-01-07 19:05 ` Randy Brukardt
2003-01-07 19:37 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-01-07 20:52 ` Wes Groleau
2003-01-08 20:05 ` Randy Brukardt
2003-01-07 21:23 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-01-08 0:30 ` Richard Riehle
2003-01-08 20:12 ` Randy Brukardt
2003-01-07 13:11 ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-06 18:22 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-01-06 20:52 ` Randy Brukardt
2003-01-07 13:56 ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-07 19:15 ` Randy Brukardt
2003-01-08 13:14 ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-08 18:04 ` tmoran
2003-01-08 18:05 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-01-08 20:20 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-01-09 13:21 ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-08 20:24 ` Randy Brukardt
2003-01-09 13:34 ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-07 13:50 ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-07 17:48 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-01-08 13:34 ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-08 18:04 ` tmoran
2003-01-08 18:16 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-01-09 13:22 ` chris.danx
2003-01-09 13:53 ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-09 15:09 ` Raster graphics [was Anybody in US using ADA ? New language competition? (long)] Chad R. Meiners
2003-01-11 19:23 ` chris.danx
2003-01-03 9:57 ` Anybody in US using ADA ? Kevin Cline
2003-01-03 12:37 ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-03 15:32 ` Anybody in US using ADA ? | for interrest Mark
2003-01-09 0:59 ` Anybody in US using ADA ? faust
2003-01-08 12:53 ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-05 17:04 ` Adrian Hoe
2003-01-06 20:06 ` Randy Brukardt
2003-01-07 2:07 ` Jeffrey Creem
2003-01-07 3:22 ` Jeffrey Creem
2003-01-05 17:06 ` Adrian Hoe
2003-01-02 3:05 ` faust
2003-01-02 3:07 ` faust
2003-01-02 22:09 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-01-02 17:57 ` Anybody in US using ADA ? One silly idea Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-01-02 18:29 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-01-02 22:02 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-01-02 20:36 ` Bill Findlay
[not found] ` <ujn2va.go3.ln@beastie.ix.netcom.com>
2003-01-03 1:44 ` Bill Findlay
2003-01-09 2:21 ` faust
2003-01-03 2:56 ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-03 4:11 ` sk
2003-01-03 4:43 ` Bill Findlay
2003-01-03 6:01 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-01-07 17:47 ` Kevin Cline
2003-01-07 19:49 ` tmoran
2003-01-09 5:15 ` Kevin Cline
2003-01-03 13:16 ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-03 18:28 ` Bill Findlay
2003-01-04 15:17 ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-09 16:36 ` faust
[not found] ` <roliva.8b4.ln@beastie.ix.netcom.com>
2003-01-09 4:32 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-03 20:07 ` tmoran
2003-01-03 23:06 ` Martin Dowie
2003-01-09 16:22 ` faust
2003-01-04 7:07 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-01-04 17:49 ` Steve
2003-01-05 3:07 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-01-07 12:38 ` Richard Riehle
2003-01-09 16:36 ` faust
2003-01-09 16:37 ` Harness your own creativity to Ada (Re: Anybody in US using ADA ? One silly idea..) faust
2003-01-03 9:24 ` Anybody in US using ADA ? One silly idea Kevin Cline
2003-01-03 10:11 ` John R. Strohm
2003-01-03 13:23 ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-03 18:40 ` John R. Strohm
2003-01-04 9:05 ` Kevin Cline
2003-01-04 16:34 ` John R. Strohm
2003-01-03 19:40 ` Kevin Cline
2003-01-03 22:34 ` Ted Dennison
2003-01-04 8:53 ` Kevin Cline
2003-01-04 11:48 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-04 18:15 ` Robert A Duff
2003-01-04 20:18 ` Hillel Y. Sims
2003-01-05 14:13 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-05 15:45 ` James S. Rogers
2003-01-06 14:13 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-06 1:20 ` Hillel Y. Sims
2003-01-06 14:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-06 19:07 ` Randy Brukardt
2003-01-07 12:33 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-08 4:24 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-08 13:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-08 18:43 ` Wes Groleau
2003-01-08 21:54 ` Ted Dennison
2003-01-09 5:05 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-06 1:37 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-01-06 14:13 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-06 19:13 ` Pascal Obry
2003-01-07 12:02 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-07 3:00 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-07 12:10 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-08 3:41 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-08 13:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-09 4:23 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-10 13:51 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-13 17:05 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-15 17:04 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-15 17:23 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-15 18:19 ` Bill Findlay
2003-01-15 19:02 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-15 19:11 ` Bill Findlay
2003-01-15 22:51 ` chris.danx
2003-01-15 23:39 ` Bill Findlay
2003-01-15 23:57 ` chris.danx
2003-01-16 0:32 ` Bill Findlay
2003-01-16 5:23 ` Richard Riehle
2003-01-16 16:33 ` One sillier idea Wes Groleau
2003-01-16 17:17 ` sk
2003-01-16 17:11 ` Anybody in US using ADA ? One silly idea Hyman Rosen
2003-01-16 17:50 ` Richard Riehle
2003-01-16 17:57 ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-01-16 18:26 ` Wes Groleau
2003-01-17 8:27 ` Anders Wirzenius
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2003-01-17 17:32 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-01-17 17:31 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-01-16 0:19 ` Richard Riehle
2003-01-16 0:16 ` chris.danx
2003-01-16 0:46 ` Bill Findlay
2003-01-16 1:19 ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-01-16 2:44 ` Richard Riehle
2003-01-16 0:24 ` Bill Findlay
2003-01-16 10:34 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2003-01-16 18:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-16 18:59 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-17 4:09 ` Richard Riehle
2003-01-17 14:36 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-17 16:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-17 17:23 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-17 19:02 ` Richard Riehle
2003-01-17 20:02 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-25 1:40 ` Richard Riehle
2003-01-26 4:57 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-18 12:31 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-18 22:53 ` Hillel Y. Sims
2003-01-19 6:18 ` Kevin Cline
2003-01-19 12:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-21 2:10 ` Hillel Y. Sims
2003-01-21 9:25 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-21 18:55 ` Kevin Cline
2003-01-23 11:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-23 16:27 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-25 11:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-26 6:32 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-27 10:11 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-27 15:08 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-28 8:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-28 15:48 ` Kevin Cline
2003-01-28 16:29 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-28 17:14 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-29 8:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-28 17:11 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-29 8:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-29 15:44 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-29 21:34 ` Mark Biggar
2003-01-29 22:54 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-30 9:03 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-30 14:59 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-30 16:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-30 17:58 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-31 8:31 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-31 15:02 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-31 16:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-31 17:11 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-03 9:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-02-03 13:26 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-03 16:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-02-03 17:00 ` Hyman Rosen
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2003-02-05 15:22 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-05 7:02 ` Amir Yantimirov
[not found] ` <en04h-1k4.ln1@beastie.ix.netcom.com>
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2003-01-31 17:25 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-03 9:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-02-03 13:11 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-03 14:40 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-04 10:11 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-02-04 6:34 ` AG
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2003-01-27 16:04 ` Kevin Cline
2003-01-19 3:42 ` Hyman Rosen
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2003-01-19 14:13 ` Hyman Rosen
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2003-01-23 13:15 ` please, please, please, Wes Groleau
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2003-01-17 16:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-17 4:03 ` Richard Riehle
2003-01-17 16:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-21 5:53 ` Richard Riehle
2003-01-21 6:24 ` tmoran
2003-01-16 19:09 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-01-15 22:48 ` Robert A Duff
2003-01-16 18:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-01-25 16:05 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-01-25 20:33 ` Richard Riehle
2003-01-27 13:29 ` Wes Groleau
2003-01-27 16:29 ` Hyman Rosen
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2003-01-06 16:23 ` Wes Groleau
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2003-01-06 16:08 ` Wes Groleau
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2003-01-07 13:40 ` Wes Groleau
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2003-01-11 5:44 ` Ted Dennison
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2003-01-06 9:49 ` Ted Dennison
2003-01-03 0:07 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-01-03 2:51 ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-03 18:13 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-01-04 15:30 ` Marin David Condic
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2003-01-08 19:46 ` Remarketing the language ( was Re: ....ADA ? One silly idea..) faust
2003-01-08 18:24 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
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2003-01-03 22:16 ` John R. Strohm
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2003-01-08 13:51 ` C++ , ADA and the Joint Strike Fighter ( was Re: Anybody in USusing " Marin David Condic
2003-01-08 21:42 ` Ted Dennison
2003-01-09 16:27 ` faust
2003-01-08 21:44 ` C++ , ADA and the Joint Strike Fighter Vinzent Hoefler
2003-01-10 7:58 ` faust
2003-01-09 14:34 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-01-09 14:57 ` C++ , ADA and the Joint Strike Fighter (Off-topic) Larry Kilgallen
2003-01-09 17:10 ` C++ , ADA and the Joint Strike Fighter Pascal Obry
2003-01-10 14:18 ` faust
2003-01-09 19:29 ` C++ , ADA and the Joint Strike Fighter (Off-topic) Larry Kilgallen
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