From: Robert Spooner <rls19@psu.edu>
To: Marin David Condic <mcondic.auntie.spam@acm.org>
Subject: Re: IBM Acquires Rational Ada
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:46:29 -0500
Date: 2002-12-13T10:46:29-05:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3DFA00D5.9010307@psu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: atcknd$8nr$1@slb9.atl.mindspring.net
Marin David Condic wrote:
> So if the Ada mentality is going to remain "We won't build a library until
> it can be released in the ARM and implemented on every processor ever
> designed and thoroughly run through the wringer so that it is 100% provable
> to be safe and reliable...." then I guess Ada can just keep on giving up
> development jobs to C, C++ and Java.
>
This is a good point. From my vantage point, one of the big mistakes
Digital Equipment Corp. (remember them?) made with their version of UNIX
was
that they didn't release it until if was up to (or at least close to)
their reliability standards. That put them in a bad competitive
position, and we all know what happened subsequently. I'm not saying
the demise of DEC was solely due to that, but I think it was a
contributing factor.
Bob
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2002-12-07 2:47 IBM Acquires Rational Ada Richard Riehle
2002-12-07 8:24 ` achrist
2002-12-08 1:46 ` Richard Riehle
2002-12-08 14:45 ` Steven Deller
2002-12-08 20:20 ` Richard Riehle
2002-12-09 14:26 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-11 18:25 ` achrist
2002-12-11 19:29 ` Martin Dowie
2002-12-22 2:07 ` faust
2002-12-21 18:08 ` faust
2002-12-08 17:18 ` steve_H
2002-12-08 20:11 ` Steven Deller
2002-12-09 14:24 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-09 15:23 ` John McCabe
2002-12-09 16:55 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-08 23:31 ` Christopher Browne
2002-12-09 10:30 ` John McCabe
2002-12-09 14:11 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-12-09 14:32 ` Pat Rogers
2002-12-09 15:42 ` Simon Wright
2002-12-12 14:41 ` Alvery Grazebrook
2002-12-12 21:13 ` Martin Dowie
2002-12-16 13:24 ` UML to Ada Mapping Alvery Grazebrook
2002-12-17 8:27 ` IBM Acquires Rational Ada Simon Wright
2002-12-10 22:43 ` Andreas Almroth
2002-12-09 13:09 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-09 22:45 ` steve_H
2002-12-10 13:50 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-10 17:47 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-10 20:21 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-10 22:05 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-11 2:50 ` steve_H
2002-12-11 8:51 ` OT: Word processing (was: Re: IBM Acquires Rational Ada) Anders Wirzenius
2002-12-11 13:45 ` IBM Acquires Rational Ada Marin David Condic
2002-12-11 14:46 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-12 13:07 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-12 18:19 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-12 19:12 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-13 12:25 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-13 17:41 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-13 18:20 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-13 21:49 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
[not found] ` <KIkL9.2260$c6.2599@bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com>
2002-12-16 18:12 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-17 21:25 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-16 18:54 ` John R. Strohm
2002-12-16 22:23 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-17 14:47 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-17 20:17 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-16 10:11 ` calenday (was " Peter Hermann
2002-12-16 18:38 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-16 19:04 ` Bill Findlay
2002-12-16 20:25 ` David C. Hoos
2002-12-16 20:37 ` Bill Findlay
2002-12-16 21:41 ` David C. Hoos
2002-12-16 22:11 ` Bill Findlay
2002-12-17 15:47 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-17 16:26 ` Peter Hermann
2002-12-17 16:37 ` Bill Findlay
2002-12-16 22:32 ` tmoran
2002-12-16 22:21 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-17 8:07 ` Simon Wright
2002-12-19 12:23 ` Frank Piron
2002-12-19 12:33 ` Karel Miklav
2002-12-19 13:24 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-17 14:46 ` Robert A Duff
2002-12-17 19:08 ` tmoran
2002-12-17 19:15 ` Bill Findlay
2002-12-17 20:00 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-17 19:48 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-12-17 20:08 ` David C. Hoos
2002-12-17 20:52 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2002-12-17 21:43 ` Steven Murdoch
2002-12-17 16:39 ` Robert A Duff
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2002-12-18 13:20 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-18 15:17 ` Robert A Duff
2002-12-18 17:58 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-19 8:48 ` tmoran
2002-12-19 13:18 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-19 20:46 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-20 12:23 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-12-20 21:35 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-20 13:15 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-20 12:19 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-12-21 15:48 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-21 14:54 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-12-20 18:49 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-20 19:48 ` Frank J. Lhota
2002-12-20 21:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-23 2:05 ` AG
2002-12-27 20:43 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-21 15:59 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-20 21:49 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-18 18:57 ` Robert A Duff
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2002-12-18 19:16 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-18 22:03 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-18 22:00 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-18 22:39 ` Robert A Duff
2002-12-19 2:41 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-19 11:47 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-12-13 14:18 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-12-13 17:07 ` Larry Kilgallen
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2002-12-13 21:52 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-14 14:01 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-14 20:01 ` tmoran
2002-12-16 18:48 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-16 23:01 ` Ed Cogburn
2002-12-11 14:59 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-11 18:33 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-11 20:51 ` steve_H
2002-12-11 21:40 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-12 18:24 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-24 4:16 ` David Thompson
2002-12-11 21:54 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-12-11 23:22 ` Robert A Duff
2002-12-12 16:44 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-12 17:14 ` Fraser Wilson
2002-12-12 18:33 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-12 19:16 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-13 21:26 ` Programmer Dude
2002-12-16 19:27 ` John R. Strohm
2002-12-16 20:08 ` Hyman Rosen
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2002-12-12 10:07 ` John English
2002-12-13 0:53 ` Zaphod
2002-12-12 13:20 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-11 19:04 ` tmoran
2002-12-11 19:20 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-12-12 13:34 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-12 17:04 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-12 18:17 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-13 9:17 ` Peter Amey
2002-12-13 12:43 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-13 15:46 ` Robert Spooner [this message]
2002-12-14 14:15 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-15 10:30 ` Ingo Marks
2002-12-15 13:54 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-15 19:20 ` tmoran
2002-12-16 13:20 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-17 15:41 ` steve_H
2002-12-18 13:11 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-16 13:43 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-11 13:33 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-12 18:43 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-12 19:53 ` tmoran
2002-12-13 6:06 ` Richard Riehle
2002-12-13 10:22 ` Ed Cogburn
2002-12-13 13:07 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-13 14:16 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-13 21:27 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-12-13 21:27 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-12-14 14:25 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-16 13:56 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-17 15:04 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-17 21:29 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-18 13:31 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-22 2:41 ` faust
2002-12-13 14:13 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-22 2:47 ` faust
2002-12-13 17:55 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-13 21:55 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2002-12-16 13:58 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-14 0:14 ` steve_H
2002-12-16 19:00 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-14 12:58 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2002-12-19 9:53 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-12-19 16:17 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2002-12-19 17:27 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-19 22:51 ` Michael Bode
2002-12-13 12:51 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-14 19:51 ` GianLuigi Piacentini
2002-12-14 20:35 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2002-12-21 17:41 ` faust
2002-12-21 17:40 ` IBM , the kiss of death ( Re: IBM Acquires Rational Ada) faust
2003-01-06 22:24 ` IBM Acquires Rational Ada Don Westermeyer
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